How long before /G required for IFR?

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Apparently you missed the "etc", along with the point being made.


The point being made is that a clock with a sweep second hand is not
required for IFR flight in the US.

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Try not to confuse me with someone who cares how seriously you take him.


Not much chance of that. You're obviously someone with little aviation
knowledge that does not wish to be taken seriously.

In a previous article, "Steven P. McNicoll" said:
"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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I know when I first got my license it quite definitely did NOT allow a
digital presentation,

I didn't realize the digital clock had been around that long.

Huh? Ok, I'm confused. I haven't had my license all that long, only 10
years or so[1]. At that time, digital clocks were quite common, but we
had to keep repairing those stupid analog clocks in the planes rather than
just sticking on a digital timer. I thought that was because of 91.205,
but on second thought it might just be because the analog clock is listed
in the POH as equipment it was certificated with.

[1] I *started* working on my license 30 years ago (by joining the Royal
Canadian Air Cadets when I was 13), but quit the Air Cadets after a year
or two because of the preponderance of little Hitlers[2] and because in
all that time I got one short ride in a glider and 20 minutes in a C-172,
and put my dreams on hold until I could afford to do it out of my own
pocket.

[2] Interestingly enough, the Army Reserve had far fewer of these jerks
who think they're God because they've got one more stripe than you.


--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
"It's 106 light-years to Chicago, we've got a full chamber of anti-matter,
a half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing visors."
"Engage."

"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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Huh? Ok, I'm confused. I haven't had my license all that long, only 10
years or so[1]. At that time, digital clocks were quite common, but we
had to keep repairing those stupid analog clocks in the planes rather than
just sticking on a digital timer. I thought that was because of 91.205,
but on second thought it might just be because the analog clock is listed
in the POH as equipment it was certificated with.

[1] I *started* working on my license 30 years ago (by joining the Royal
Canadian Air Cadets when I was 13), but quit the Air Cadets after a year
or two because of the preponderance of little Hitlers[2] and because in
all that time I got one short ride in a glider and 20 minutes in a C-172,
and put my dreams on hold until I could afford to do it out of my own
pocket.

[2] Interestingly enough, the Army Reserve had far fewer of these jerks
who think they're God because they've got one more stripe than you.


Sorry. My mistake. I got the impression you were much older.

(Paul Tomblin) wrote:
Huh? Ok, I'm confused. I haven't had my license all that long, only 10
years or so[1]. At that time, digital clocks were quite common, but we
had to keep repairing those stupid analog clocks in the planes rather than
just sticking on a digital timer. I thought that was because of 91.205,
but on second thought it might just be because the analog clock is listed
in the POH as equipment it was certificated with.

Part of the issue is that your Westbend/RadioShack/etc timer isn't
installed in the airplane, so it doesn't count. What made the clock in the
panel magic was not that it had a second hand, but that it was mounted in
the panel.

"Roy Smith" wrote in message
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Part of the issue is that your Westbend/RadioShack/etc timer isn't
installed in the airplane, so it doesn't count. What made the clock in
the
panel magic was not that it had a second hand, but that it was mounted in
the panel.


So what? Where is it written that only the clock installed in the airplane
can be used for IFR operations?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"Peter R." wrote in message
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Is this true with all DME arcs? So, am I mistaken to believe that I can
legally fly this approach without a DME?


No, it's not true with all DME arcs. It's true with this one because DME is
the principal instrument approach navigation source. I'm not aware of any
other approach like this one.

This approach would be an excellent trick question on the IFR written,
then...

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In article . net,
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

Nobody suggested IFR operations without the required equipment. A handheld
GPS does not require any placard to be affixed to the aircraft or any change
to a flight manual.

Note also that a handheld GPS does not enable any IFR operation that a
pilot couldn't do without the handheld GPS.

--
Bob Noel
looking for a sig the lawyers will like

"Newps" wrote in message
news


Chip Jones wrote:
We're in the process
of fixing that right now though.

Yep, you're getting all the AFSS guys that will be, ah, surplussed.

Naw, *you're* getting all of the AFSS guys who have been surplussed. I'm in
a Level-12 ARTCC at the top of the ATC food chain. The AFSS guys that have
a Center background are almost all to a person, if not actually to a person,
enroute training failures. When we used to wash 'em out, they got sent down
to AFSS or some small tower/tracon in the minors somewhere. The vast
majority of employable AFSS people aren't qualified for ARTCC developmental
positions. We don't accept training failure transfers here at the world's
busiest ATC facility.

Far more likely you swivel-heads will get the few AFSS guys who actually are
qualified controllers. Ironic, too, in a twisted FAA way.. After all, the
69 Level 2-3 VFR towers will be the next part of the NAS auctioned off to
the low bidder, followed by Level-Three up-down terminal facilities. Those
few AFSS people who get picked up in air traffic will be job-hunting again
in about five years, along with a whole bunch of terminal 2152's. Serco or
Lockmart is headed your way right around 2010 or so.

Chip, ZTL

In a previous article, Roy Smith said:
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:
just sticking on a digital timer. I thought that was because of 91.205,
but on second thought it might just be because the analog clock is listed
in the POH as equipment it was certificated with.

Part of the issue is that your Westbend/RadioShack/etc timer isn't
installed in the airplane, so it doesn't count. What made the clock in the
panel magic was not that it had a second hand, but that it was mounted in
the panel.

Hmmm. Does anybody make a digital clock that's TSO'ed to replace a Piper
analog clock?

--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
The Write Many, Read Never drive. For those people that don't know
their system has a /dev/null already.
-- Rik Steenwinkel, singing the praises of 8mm Exabytes