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Old January 26th 08, 06:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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tonight I went for a night flight with a buddy. We had a great trip
there, but on the way back he started fooling around with the GPS and
somehow I missed what he did. He changed our course to go straight
east instead of southeast. By the time I realized this, we were way
off course. I fixed our course back to my home airport, but I think
he also changed the GPS to where the map doesn't show the airspace
borders because soon after getting back on course I looked to my right
and saw a class C airport slightly in the distance. I couldn't really
judge how close we were, but we were close enough to where I was
probably in thier airspace. I kind of froze up and wasn't sure what
to do, so I just continued on to my home airport.

Am I going to get in trouble for this? It was completely accidental,
and I don't even know if I was in the class c for sure. Anybody have
any input? I'm sorry if this sounds stupid. I just got my private
pilot cert about 2 weeks ago.

Thanks
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Old January 26th 08, 08:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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NASA forum oops baad beef in the E* tradition of the spelling.... always
carry a current chart and know where you are at all times take it as a
lesson learned.... Don't Depend on GPS depend on your eyes and a chart....

SLR



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tonight I went for a night flight with a buddy. We had a great trip
there, but on the way back he started fooling around with the GPS and
somehow I missed what he did. He changed our course to go straight
east instead of southeast. By the time I realized this, we were way
off course. I fixed our course back to my home airport, but I think
he also changed the GPS to where the map doesn't show the airspace
borders because soon after getting back on course I looked to my right
and saw a class C airport slightly in the distance. I couldn't really
judge how close we were, but we were close enough to where I was
probably in thier airspace. I kind of froze up and wasn't sure what
to do, so I just continued on to my home airport.

Am I going to get in trouble for this? It was completely accidental,
and I don't even know if I was in the class c for sure. Anybody have
any input? I'm sorry if this sounds stupid. I just got my private
pilot cert about 2 weeks ago.

Thanks



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Old January 26th 08, 02:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default i think I flew into class c airspace accidentally without establishing communication

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:48:07 -0800 (PST), wrote
in
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It was completely accidental,
and I don't even know if I was in the class c for sure. Anybody have
any input?


Dear RODNEY JAMES FAULKINER,

It sounds like caress operation to me.
http://tinyurl.com/2ywg3t

The clock is ticking.
Consider: http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/report/electronic.html

http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/overview/briefing/br_6.html
The Immunity Concept

(FAA Advisory Circular AC No. 00-46D)

c. The filing of a report with NASA concerning an incident or
occurrence involving a violation of 49 U.S.C. Subtitle IV, or the
FAR, is considered by FAA to be indicative of a constructive
attitude. Such an attitude will tend to prevent future violations.
Accordingly, although a finding of a violation may be made,
neither a civil penalty nor certificate suspension will be imposed
if:

The violation was inadvertent and not deliberate;

The violation did not involve a criminal offense, or accident, or
action under 49U.S.C. Section 44709 which discloses a lack of
qualification or competency, which are wholly excluded from this
policy:

The person has not been found in any prior FAA enforcement action
to have committed a violation of 49 U.S. C. Subtitle VIII, or any
regulation promulgated there for a period of 5 years prior to the
date of the occurrence; and

The person proves that, within 10 days after the violation, he or
she completed and delivered or mailed a written report of the
incident or occurrence to NASA under ASRS. See paragraphs 5c and
7b. NOTE: Paragraph 9 does not apply to air traffic controllers.

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Old January 26th 08, 03:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default i think I flew into class c airspace accidentally withoutestablishing communication

On Jan 27, 12:10 am, Larry Dighera wrote:


Dear [name omitted[


Did you really have to put his full name here, in cleartext?

Now anyone using google can search his name and find this thread. It
was a serious stuffup, but that was uncalled for.

Al.
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Old January 26th 08, 03:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Al Borowski" wrote
Did you really have to put his full name here, in cleartext?

Now anyone using google can search his name and find this thread. It
was a serious stuffup, but that was uncalled for.


That would be standard operating procedure for Larry, if that is what he
did. I avoid the problem with larry by not reading him.
--
Jim in NC


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Old January 26th 08, 06:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
William Hung[_2_]
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Default i think I flew into class c airspace accidentally withoutestablishing communication

On Jan 26, 10:20*am, Al Borowski wrote:
On Jan 27, 12:10 am, Larry Dighera wrote:



Dear [name omitted[


Did you really have to put his full name here, in cleartext?

Now anyone using google can search his name and find this thread. It
was a serious stuffup, but that was uncalled for.

Al.


I'm fairly new to this RAP and I've already learned that Larry is an
idiot who likes to get into other people's business.

Wil
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Old January 26th 08, 05:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mike Flying 8
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Default i think I flew into class c airspace accidentally without establishing communication

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 14:10:52 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote:

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:48:07 -0800 (PST), wrote
in
:

It was completely accidental,
and I don't even know if I was in the class c for sure. Anybody have
any input?


Dear XXXXXXXXXXXX


You have got to be kidding me... Are you for real?
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Old January 26th 08, 10:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
B A R R Y
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On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:37:43 -0800, Mike Flying 8
wrote:

You have got to be kidding me... Are you for real?



Awful! Totally lame!

What possible purpose would that post serve?


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Old January 26th 08, 07:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default i think I flew into class c airspace accidentally withoutestablishing communication

On Jan 27, 3:10 am, Larry Dighera wrote:

and narked on a fellow pilot who was making an enquiry as to what
action he should pursue after he -might- have entered restricted
airspace.

What a nasty little person !
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Old January 26th 08, 10:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default i think I flew into class c airspace accidentally without establishingcommunication

george wrote:
On Jan 27, 3:10 am, Larry Dighera wrote:

and narked on a fellow pilot who was making an enquiry as to what
action he should pursue after he -might- have entered restricted
airspace.

What a nasty little person !


What makes you think he's a person? That is an insult to persons
everywhere! :-)
 




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