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Old January 22nd 04, 09:40 PM
Snowbird
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recent thread has me wondering:

what's the shortest runway you've encountered with an ILS?

About the shortest I can think of offhand is the ILS 24 at
RID (Richmond, Indiana), 5500 ft.

We may have been somewhere w/ a shorter runway served by an
ILS, but probably didn't fly an ILS and I don't remember

Anyone else?

Thanks,
Sydney
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Old January 22nd 04, 10:59 PM
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"Snowbird" wrote...

what's the shortest runway you've encountered with an ILS?


About 600 feet -- CV 41 USS Midway.

I would have said CVT 16 USS Lexington, but I can't ever remember the ILS
working on Lex...

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Old January 22nd 04, 11:03 PM
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On 22 Jan 2004, Snowbird wrote:

Found ILS RW 8 @ Butler, PA (BTP) -- 3998'

Rick/JYO
PP-ASEL-IA

recent thread has me wondering:

what's the shortest runway you've encountered with an ILS?


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Old January 23rd 04, 12:10 AM
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chino california (CNO) the ILS on 26R is 4858 ft.
seems shorter then that to me tho.


Snowbird wrote:

recent thread has me wondering:

what's the shortest runway you've encountered with an ILS?

About the shortest I can think of offhand is the ILS 24 at
RID (Richmond, Indiana), 5500 ft.

We may have been somewhere w/ a shorter runway served by an
ILS, but probably didn't fly an ILS and I don't remember

Anyone else?

Thanks,
Sydney


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Old January 23rd 04, 02:12 PM
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Nathan Young writes:

Isn't there a minimum runway length to have an ILS, like 4000ft?


There might be a minimum but it doesn't appear to be 4000 feet.
VVS, 05, 3458, 100, ASPH-F
HIE, 10, 3495, 75, ASPH-G
PVC, 07, 3500, 100, ASPH-G
FCM, 10R, 3909, 75, ASPH-G
BTP, 08, 3998, 100, ASPH-F

Pavement doesn't seem to be a requirement either.
PBV, 11, 5000, 150, GRAVEL-G
UBW, 05, 6000, 130, GRAVEL-G
KSM, 16, 6003, 150, GRAVEL-G
UNK, 14, 6004, 150, GRAVEL-G

--kyler
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Old January 23rd 04, 03:12 PM
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Kyler Laird writes:

Nathan Young writes:


Isn't there a minimum runway length to have an ILS, like 4000ft?


There might be a minimum but it doesn't appear to be 4000 feet.
VVS, 05, 3458, 100, ASPH-F
HIE, 10, 3495, 75, ASPH-G
PVC, 07, 3500, 100, ASPH-G
FCM, 10R, 3909, 75, ASPH-G
BTP, 08, 3998, 100, ASPH-F


Oh! I'm sorry for being incomplete there. I forgot to mention that
I was looking at runways with full ILS or just localizers. The FAA
groups everything under "ILS"
http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/ATA-1...ats/Apt_rf.txt

L AN 0010 00072 I22 INSTRUMENT LANDING SYSTEM (ILS) TYPE
ILS - INSTRUMENT LANDING SYSTEM
MLS - MICROWAVE LANDING SYSTEM
SDF - SIMPLIFIED DIRECTIONAL FACILITY
LOCALIZER - LOCALIZER
LDA - LOCALIZER-TYPE DIRECTIONAL AID
ISMLS - INTERIM STANDARD MICROWAVE
LANDING SYSTEM
ILS/DME - INSTRUMENT LANDING SYSTEM/
DISTANCE MEASURING EQUIPMENT
SDF/DME - SIMPLIFIED DIRECTIONAL FACILITY
DISTANCE MEASURING EQUIPMENT
LOC/DME - LOCALIZER/
DISTANCE MEASURING EQUIPMENT
LOC/GS - LOCALIZER/GLIDE SLOPE
LDA/DME - LOCALIZER-TYPE DIRECTIONAL AID
DISTANCE MEASURING EQUIPMENT
and I was examining anything with "ILS" or "LOC" in the type. Here's
a better list.
SXL, 04, 3015, 50, ASPH-F, SDF
VVS, 05, 3458, 100, ASPH-F, LOCALIZER
HIE, 10, 3495, 75, ASPH-G, LOCALIZER
PVC, 07, 3500, 100, ASPH-G, ILS/DME
DUT, 12, 3900, 100, ASPH-G, MLS
FCM, 10R, 3909, 75, ASPH-G, ILS
BTP, 08, 3998, 100, ASPH-F, ILS

Hmmm...looks like I should have just gone straight to the ILS file
instead of looking at airport/runway info.
http://aviationtoolbox.org/old/ATA-1...ats/Ils_rf.txt

--kyler
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Old January 23rd 04, 04:43 PM
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:12:02 GMT, Kyler Laird
wrote:

Nathan Young writes:

Isn't there a minimum runway length to have an ILS, like 4000ft?


There might be a minimum but it doesn't appear to be 4000 feet.
VVS, 05, 3458, 100, ASPH-F
HIE, 10, 3495, 75, ASPH-G
PVC, 07, 3500, 100, ASPH-G
FCM, 10R, 3909, 75, ASPH-G
BTP, 08, 3998, 100, ASPH-F

Pavement doesn't seem to be a requirement either.
PBV, 11, 5000, 150, GRAVEL-G
UBW, 05, 6000, 130, GRAVEL-G
KSM, 16, 6003, 150, GRAVEL-G
UNK, 14, 6004, 150, GRAVEL-G


Wild. Hard to believe you can shoot an ILS to Gravel, of course each
of those runways mentioned are in Alaska...

-Nathan

 




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