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Old July 20th 03, 03:47 AM
Phantom Ryder
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Every base is on the chopping block when BRAC convenes. I worked at Nellis
with the Range Group during the BRAC rounds in the 1990s. We had to justify
our mission and training. I hate to think of the hours involved in
answering the BRAC questions. Necessary, but it did take about two months
of work in addition to the mission of the unit. No base is safe until the
BRAC report is finished and accepted by DoD.

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Not likely. Just came from Nellis and spoke to a Colonel. He said they are
pouring tens of millions into expansions, additions and improvements in

almost
every area. I think Nellis will be around for a while.

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Old July 20th 03, 05:33 AM
Mary Shafer
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 02:47:32 GMT, "Phantom Ryder"
wrote:

Every base is on the chopping block when BRAC convenes. I worked at Nellis
with the Range Group during the BRAC rounds in the 1990s. We had to justify
our mission and training. I hate to think of the hours involved in
answering the BRAC questions. Necessary, but it did take about two months
of work in addition to the mission of the unit. No base is safe until the
BRAC report is finished and accepted by DoD.


Nah. Edwards is safe. So's China Lake. No one else has dry
lakebeds. Eglin's probably safe, too, because of the ranges.

Mary

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Old July 20th 03, 12:20 PM
John Carrier
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Just came from Nellis and spoke to a Colonel.
Colonels are often "out of the loop" when it comes to high-level planning


And what posiition do you hold " in the loop"


His point is well taken. The base CO IS out of this loop. The BRAC
decisions in the past were made at the service secretariat level. In the
USN, even CNO wasn't truly "in the loop."

Of course, BRAC 2005 is going to be SecDef's show. Given Rummy's management
style, do you think the base CO is going to be consulted?

R / John


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Old July 20th 03, 12:22 PM
John Carrier
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Nah. Edwards is safe. So's China Lake. No one else has dry
lakebeds. Eglin's probably safe, too, because of the ranges.


I would say that EITHER Edwards or China Lake is safe (given the purple suit
world we now live in). I'll go with your assessment of Eglin too.

R / John


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Old July 24th 03, 01:17 PM
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"ArtKramr" wrote


Nellis will have no mission when they shut down the range. I don't care

how
many tax dollars you blow, it will serve no purpose. The range has so

many
restrictions now, that the training is academic at best. There's no

real-world
value, except maybe to an MQT student. Most Captains and Majors pretty
much just shake their head at how far gone the training value is.




Has something changed in the past few months ? I was out there back in
December 2002 and it was still a pretty good range/moa to fly in.


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Old July 26th 03, 03:24 AM
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Has something changed in the past few months ? I was out there back in
December 2002 and it was still a pretty good range/moa to fly in.


Not in months, but in years. Since 1995, the "No-Fly" areas in the range have
tripled (if not more). Fortunately, they're not a factor if your above 5000'
AGL, which is where most of us are now-a-days.


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