14 yr old pilot

I disagree Jonathan,
A responsible parent does not need to hide things from teenagers. A parent
teaching discipline, respect, and responsibility would solve alot more
problems. If he were mine he would not have to worry much about riding in
cars or planes for a spell..because the docs would be removing my foot out
of his butt !
But I am glad the young renegade did not kill himself, and more so did not
kill anyone else! But we all know how "today's " world goes, he will
probably be put in the time out chair for a few hours and then the parents
will wonder why he is a convicted felon in a few years.
And I do agree the parents probably did not have a clue as to what this
kid did or does. But remember the good old days when parents could be
parents? When I was a kid if you went to a store with your folks and acted
up , you got your backside tore up right there in front of God and everybody
else. Try to do that now and they send your kids to foster care and you to
prison. So maybe the whole blame just isn't on a parents lack of parenting
skills, but a combination of a lack of those skills and interference by the
government.
Myself I feel a 14 year old is old enough to take the blame for his own
actions..I blame this young fellow more than anything else. He is not two,
we should not have to hide the dish cleaners from him anymore, nor should we
have to hide our possessions...he should know right from wrong at this
point. If he doesn't he sure has a hard row to hoe.

Patrick
student SPL
aicraft structural mech

"Jonathan Goodish" wrote in message
...
In article kIDse.9370$fa3.2840@trndny01,
George Patterson wrote:

Jonathan Goodish wrote:

I am thinking "where were the parents?"

Notice that he also stole his mother's van to drive to the airport. His
parents
were probably sitting at home saying "I'm a'gonna kill that kid when I
catch
up
to him."


I doubt it. The parents obviously weren't paying attention to what he
was up to, and obviously left the keys in a place accessible to him.

This kid obviously didn't have much respect for authority, didn't
demonstrate good judgment, was not very bright, and I certainly wouldn't
characterize him as "well-behaved." If that describes your kid and you
know they're generally an irresponsible terror, being a responsible
parent would including eliminating easy access to things that your kid
could use to get into trouble--like your car.

Of course, in my experience, the kids who are irresponsible terrors
usually don't have responsible parents.



JKG

In article ,
"W P Dixon" wrote:

I disagree Jonathan,
A responsible parent does not need to hide things from teenagers. A parent
teaching discipline, respect, and responsibility would solve alot more
problems. If he were mine he would not have to worry much about riding in
cars or planes for a spell..because the docs would be removing my foot out
of his butt !

I think that you missed my point.

My point was that the parent(s) more than likely did not provide him
with the proper discipline and respect because they likely don't
demonstrate those qualities themselves.

However, a more important point is that the kid and parents are
responsible for this incident, not a lack of security at the airport. A
contributing factor could be the puzzling apparent practice of leaving
keys in airplanes parked on the ramp.



JKG

Jonathan Goodish wrote:

TheÂ*parentsÂ*obviouslyÂ*weren'tÂ*payingÂ*attentio nÂ*toÂ*whatÂ*he
was up to, and obviously left the keys in a place accessible to him.

Do parents have to hide their keys? My two boys are still too young for
this to be an issue, but I don't recall this from my own youth. I don't
happen to know where my Mom kept keys, but I recall clearly my Dad coming
home from work and placing his keys (and ID) on a dresser in his bedroom.

[I later started having nightmares when I found myself doing the exact same
thing coming home from work laugh.]

- Andrew

Sounds like Presidential timber to me -- certainly Congressional.

{;-)


Jim



This kid obviously didn't have much respect for authority, didn't
demonstrate good judgment, was not very bright, and I certainly wouldn't
characterize him as "well-behaved."

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 08:40:31 -0400, T o d d P a t t i s t

Thomas Borchert wrote:

First, there is no such thing as a "14-year-old pilot". The regs don't
permit it.

FAR 61.83 To be eligible for a student pilot certificate, an
applicant must:
(b) Be at least 14 years of age for the operation of a
glider or balloon.

more fundamental, with deference to Mr Borchert's knowledge of rules
and regulations ...

He was reported as a 14 year old pilot, not a 14 year old with a pilot
certificate. He apparently was the pilot, but not a very good one,
and almost certainly not with any PPSE from the USA.

First, there is no such thing as a "14-year-old pilot". The regs don't
permit it.


you are correct... he's a thief x 2.. he took his mothers car without
permission and then the airplane

BT

First, there is no such thing as a "14-year-old pilot". The regs don't
permit it.

FAR 61.83 To be eligible for a student pilot certificate, an
applicant must:
(b) Be at least 14 years of age for the operation of a
glider or balloon.



It was an airplane, not a glider or balloon
BT

"Howard" wrote in message
...
"Steve Foley" wrote in news:cgyse.330586
:

I thought only usenet posters didn't know the difference between lose and
loose.

I guess The Associated Press doesn't either.

Newspaper editors have long since stopped doing any actual editing. You
really would be surprised at the crap that gets by them. "I swear, I am
not making this up", but in a local paper recently, a subheadline that was
obviously supposed to just be a temporary placeholder actually got
through.
Then again, I suppose they COULD have intended the subheadline to be
"Subheadline goes here, once you know what this is about, this most boring
of news stories". Unprofessional though.

I once wrote a letter to the editor (local paper) regarding some aviation
topic and the editor corrected my letter grammatically (only that I was
correct and the correction was wrong). Amazing!

Well leaving your keys in your airplane sure has got to be DUMMMMMB! But
a key anywhere doesn't make someone be a crook. But a lock can sure keep
honest people honest!

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech


"Jonathan Goodish" wrote in message
...
In article 4bEse.36
A
contributing factor could be the puzzling apparent practice of leaving
keys in airplanes parked on the ramp.



JKG

In article ne.com,
Andrew Gideon wrote:
Do parents have to hide their keys? My two boys are still too young for
this to be an issue, but I don't recall this from my own youth. I don't
happen to know where my Mom kept keys, but I recall clearly my Dad coming
home from work and placing his keys (and ID) on a dresser in his bedroom.


That wasn't quite my point. My point is that irresponsible parenting
often produces irresponsible children, who are able to steal cars and
airplanes. Sometimes, the result is death or injury, and a lawsuit from
the irresponsible parent against someone who had no actual
responsibility for the incident, and sometimes the irresponsible parent
actually wins because they successfully deflect their irresponsible
behavior onto someone else.


JKG