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  #1  
Old March 13th 12, 06:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
BobW
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Default Crunch Alert...

From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).

Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
(as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.

Let's hope the injury data is accurate...

Begin cut-n-paste...

IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 103SH Make/Model: G103 Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
Date: 02/22/2012 Time: 1800

Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial

LOCATION
City: MOKULEIA State: HI Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

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  #2  
Old March 13th 12, 06:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Discus 44
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Posts: 53
Default Crunch Alert...

On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).

Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
(as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.

Let's hope the injury data is accurate...

Begin cut-n-paste...

IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 103SH Make/Model: G103 Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
Date: 02/22/2012 Time: 1800

Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial

LOCATION
City: MOKULEIA State: HI Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

End cut-n-paste...




On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).

Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
(as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.

Let's hope the injury data is accurate...

Begin cut-n-paste...

IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 103SH Make/Model: G103 Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
Date: 02/22/2012 Time: 1800

Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial

LOCATION
City: MOKULEIA State: HI Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

End cut-n-paste...




On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).

Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
(as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.

Let's hope the injury data is accurate...

Begin cut-n-paste...

IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 103SH Make/Model: G103 Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
Date: 02/22/2012 Time: 1800

Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial

LOCATION
City: MOKULEIA State: HI Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

End cut-n-paste...




On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).

Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
(as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.

Let's hope the injury data is accurate...

Begin cut-n-paste...

IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 103SH Make/Model: G103 Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
Date: 02/22/2012 Time: 1800

Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial

LOCATION
City: MOKULEIA State: HI Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

End cut-n-paste...




On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).

Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
(as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.

Let's hope the injury data is accurate...

Begin cut-n-paste...

IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 103SH Make/Model: G103 Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
Date: 02/22/2012 Time: 1800

Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial

LOCATION
City: MOKULEIA State: HI Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

End cut-n-paste...


It was a landing incident where the student pilot porpoised and broke the tail and hit the nose. No injuries except the glider of course.
  #3  
Old March 14th 12, 12:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
T[_2_]
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Posts: 187
Default Crunch Alert...

On Mar 13, 11:36*am, Discus 44 wrote:
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).


Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
(as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.


Let's hope the injury data is accurate...


Begin cut-n-paste...


IDENTIFICATION
* *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
* *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800


* *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
* *Damage: Substantial


LOCATION
* *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US


DESCRIPTION
* *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII


INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
* * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:


End cut-n-paste...

On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).


Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
(as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.


Let's hope the injury data is accurate...


Begin cut-n-paste...


IDENTIFICATION
* *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
* *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800


* *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
* *Damage: Substantial


LOCATION
* *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US


DESCRIPTION
* *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII


INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
* * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:


End cut-n-paste...

On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).


Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
(as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.


Let's hope the injury data is accurate...


Begin cut-n-paste...


IDENTIFICATION
* *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
* *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800


* *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
* *Damage: Substantial


LOCATION
* *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US


DESCRIPTION
* *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII


INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
* * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:


End cut-n-paste...

On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).


Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
(as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.


Let's hope the injury data is accurate...


Begin cut-n-paste...


IDENTIFICATION
* *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
* *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800


* *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
* *Damage: Substantial


LOCATION
* *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US


DESCRIPTION
* *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII


INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
* * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:


End cut-n-paste...

On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).


Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
(as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.


Let's hope the injury data is accurate...


Begin cut-n-paste...


IDENTIFICATION
* *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
* *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800


* *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
* *Damage: Substantial


LOCATION
* *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US


DESCRIPTION
* *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII


INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
* * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:


End cut-n-paste...


It was a landing incident where the student pilot porpoised and broke the tail and hit the nose. *No injuries except the glider of course.


So if it is a student, and crew of 2, then why did the CFI-G allow
this to happen?

Yes, I instruct in Grob 103s.

T
  #4  
Old March 14th 12, 03:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Discus 44
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Posts: 53
Default Crunch Alert...

On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 5:42:05 PM UTC-7, T wrote:
On Mar 13, 11:36*am, Discus 44 wrote:
On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).


Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
(as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.


Let's hope the injury data is accurate...


Begin cut-n-paste...


IDENTIFICATION
* *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
* *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800


* *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
* *Damage: Substantial


LOCATION
* *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US


DESCRIPTION
* *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII


INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
* * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:


End cut-n-paste...

On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).


Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
(as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.


Let's hope the injury data is accurate...


Begin cut-n-paste...


IDENTIFICATION
* *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
* *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800


* *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
* *Damage: Substantial


LOCATION
* *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US


DESCRIPTION
* *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII


INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
* * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:


End cut-n-paste...

On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).


Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
(as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.


Let's hope the injury data is accurate...


Begin cut-n-paste...


IDENTIFICATION
* *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
* *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800


* *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
* *Damage: Substantial


LOCATION
* *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US


DESCRIPTION
* *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII


INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
* * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:


End cut-n-paste...

On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).


Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
(as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.


Let's hope the injury data is accurate...


Begin cut-n-paste...


IDENTIFICATION
* *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
* *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800


* *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
* *Damage: Substantial


LOCATION
* *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US


DESCRIPTION
* *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII


INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
* * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:


End cut-n-paste...

On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:04:03 AM UTC-7, BobW wrote:
From today's FAA Prelims; note the reporting delay (i.e. Feb. 22 crunch date).


Note also FAA registration data identifies the plane as a G-103A Twin II Acro
(as distinct from the preliminary data description). Registered to a corporation.


Let's hope the injury data is accurate...


Begin cut-n-paste...


IDENTIFICATION
* *Regis#: 103SH * * * *Make/Model: G103 * * *Description: G-103C TWIN 3SL GLIDER
* *Date: 02/22/2012 * * Time: 1800


* *Event Type: Accident * Highest Injury: None * * Mid Air: N * *Missing: N
* *Damage: Substantial


LOCATION
* *City: MOKULEIA * State: HI * Country: US


DESCRIPTION
* *AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NEAR MOKULEIA, HAWAII


INJURY DATA * * *Total Fatal: * 0
* * * * * * * * * # Crew: * 2 * * Fat: * 0 * * Ser: * 0 * * Min: * 0 * * Unk:


End cut-n-paste...


It was a landing incident where the student pilot porpoised and broke the tail and hit the nose. *No injuries except the glider of course.


So if it is a student, and crew of 2, then why did the CFI-G allow
this to happen?

Yes, I instruct in Grob 103s.

T


Sorry, It may not have been a student, my information came second hand. More likely a private pilot. We will have to wait until the detailed report is published.
 




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