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If user fees go into effect I'm done
"Wolfgang Schwanke" wrote in message news The US is a direct democracy? No, it is a representative democracy, unfortunately. The US government cannot ignore what the people want? The US government does so regularly. |
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Blueskies writes:
Sure, I should have said govment provided service, rather than 'free', but that is the same as saying that you would rather only ride on toll roads, rather than the freeways we have today. Some things are best as a govment service because private providers will only do things that satisfy the profit motive. Monopolies should always be under government control for this reason. The different between a Flight Watch with fees and one without is that the former is paid for exclusively by the people who use it, whereas the latter is paid for by everyone, whether they use it or not. The former is bad for pilots, the latter is bad for taxpayers generally. It's often difficult to find a balance between the population that pays for a service and the population that uses it. The biggest problems arise when the two populations are mutually exclusive (cf. Welfare). -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Wolfgang Schwanke writes:
I didn't know the United States had 300 million ministers. It doesn't. Shut up . Oh really this is silly, you are using a very creative mix of constantly shifting standards and equivocations to defend your nationalist prejudices, without ever substantiating any of them. I suggest you give up, it doesn't work. If it didn't work, you wouldn't be so upset. The truth hurts. If I had "nationalist prejudices," I wouldn't be living abroad. I just call them as I see them. And some of what I see isn't the least bit flattering to Europeans, I'm afraid. A class means: A set of people who have a different perspective and different interests than others sets of people. A class is a group of people with different privileges, obligations, rights, and status. Classes are thick on the ground in Europe, where everyone knows his station and dares not stray outside of his social circle. But they are rare in the U.S. No it doesn't. There are few countries in Europe who have nobles or royals at all; someone who claims to know so much about the continent ought to know such an important fact. Andorra, Belgium, Denmark, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Monacco, the Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden, the United Kingdom, and the Vatican all have monarchies and royals, and some have nobles as well. And the few countries who do have them do so mostly for fun, not for political functions. They have them because they cannot bear the thought of all people being treated equitably as individuals. That's where Europe and the U.S. part ways. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Steven P. McNicoll writes:
What things provided as government services are superior to things provided by private providers motivated by the potential for profit? Just about every monopoly service is superior in quality when provided by the government. A profit motive can work to improve quality and efficiency and lower costs when there is competition at work and these things are necessary to retain business. But when there is no competition, the profit motive works in exactly the opposite way, destroying quality and efficiency and raising costs through the roof. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote: I would much rather let Flight Watch die and replace it with private sector service providers that charge fees and compete for my patronage than pay a direct user fee to the FAA for each use of Flight Watch. How should the charges be structured for a service providing data the government produces? -- Bob Noel Looking for a sig the lawyers will hate |
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message ... How should the charges be structured for a service providing data the government produces? How are they structured now? |
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"Wolfgang Schwanke" wrote Shut up . Oh really this is silly, you are using a very creative mix of constantly shifting standards and equivocations to defend your nationalist prejudices, without ever substantiating any of them. I suggest you give up, it doesn't work. But it is working, right to a tee, for a troll's plans. It has your replying; how many times now? That is the goal. He has openly admitted that he is a troll, and here to stir up trouble. Why not be part of the solution? Don't respond, no matter how much his post needs to be rebutted. That goes for everyone, but there are two many here that have no self control, or have diarrhea of the mouth, or keyboard. -- Jim in NC |
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Blueskies wrote:
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message link.net... : : "Blueskies" wrote in message : . net... : : Yea, sure, for a FEE! : : : Yes. Is that a problem? : : So, you are saying let Flight Watch die, which for now is a free service, and replace it with a privatized service for a fee. Yes, that is the problem... First, you can get your briefing for free on the ground. Second, the inflight wx is provided by commercial services that compete with each other, not by a monolithic FAA service. This is a far better deal than we will ever get from the government, even if they privatize it (which just creates yet another monopoly). Scott |
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Blueskies wrote:
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message link.net... : : "Blueskies" wrote in message : . net... : : So, you are saying let Flight Watch die, which for now is a free service, : and replace it with a privatized service for a fee. Yes, that is the : problem... : : : Flight Watch is not a free service, there are no free services. You : consider Flight Watch to be a "free service" only because you don't pay for : it directly, it's paid with taxes. I would much rather let Flight Watch die : and replace it with private sector service providers that charge fees and : compete for my patronage than pay a direct user fee to the FAA for each use : of Flight Watch. : : Sure, I should have said govment provided service, rather than 'free', but that is the same as saying that you would rather only ride on toll roads, rather than the freeways we have today. Some things are best as a govment service because private providers will only do things that satisfy the profit motive. And the "profit motive" has given us wx delivered by geosyncronous satellite, including graphics. The FAA has given us an operator who reads web pages to you. The government would have got round to giving you satellite delivered weather and graphics, certainly by 2040 at the latest. By the way, all of that graphical weather comes from Nexrad radar, an expensive and advanced system YOU paid to build. How much progress has the FAA or NOAA made in getting that information to you in the cockpit? (without commercial help) Scott |
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Judah wrote:
"Chris" wrote in news:535rlaF1qs7rdU1 @mid.individual.net: Have a look at the future for some of us it is the present. http://www.eurocontrol.int/crco/publ...ance_tool.html It looks like aircraft weighing less than 2 tons are exempt. I believe that would pretty much cover all single engine pistons. Hopefully that will be the same approach that they come up with here... 2 tons = 4000 pounds. Walk over to all the pilots on your home field with aircraft in this range, and tell them you have no problem at all with the government balancing the budget on their backs to save your own skin. Then tell us who is going to be on YOUR side when they reduce the weight requirement to 3,000 lbs. Then 2,000 lbs. Then 1,000 lbs. Then pass a bill declaring that private "hobby" aircraft are to be restricted to unpopulated areas only. Scott |
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