mobile phones

why do it in the air?

I've done it to call the Tower and get a landing clearance after my
radio faile

Brian

If many consider it unsafe to drive
and talk, why do it in the air?

Well, I don't but, some would answer because it is unusual to be passing
obstructions at high speed an arms length away in a glider - gaggles not
withstanding.

Tony V.

"chipsoars" wrote in message
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On Mar 4, 4:37 pm, "Peter" wrote:
What is the maximum altitude (about) when the mobile phone becomes
useless?
PeterK

I've had it ring at 2500'agl at which point I told whoever (my wife
and curtly too) that I was busy flying and then shut it off (I forgot
to shut it off prior to launch). If many consider it unsafe to drive
and talk, why do it in the air?


First, there are hundreds of thousands of pilots trained to verbally copy
and read back complicated airtraffic clearances while flying extremely
complex aircraft. For these pilots, a duplex phome conversation while
flying a simple glider is childs play. However, if it bothers you, don't do
it.

BTW, I don't think using satellite phones aboard an aircraft is prohibited
by FCC regulations.

Bill D

Depends on the type of cell phone (2d generation, 3GPP etc) and where
you're flying.

My phone (model LG 8300) with Verizon service stops working in central
Arizona above pattern altitude. But it works great in the boonies of
Nevada all the way up to the 17,999'.

~ted/2NO

The answer to your question will depend on what type of phone you
operate, the area you are in, or even the type of airplane, which
might interfere with reception.

However, you should not forget that the use of cell phones aboard
airborne aircrafts is banned by the FCC in 47 C.F.R. § 22.925:
(Oct 1, 2006 revision) states "Cellular telephones installed in or
carried aboard airplanes, balloons or any other type of aircraft must
not be operated while such aircraft are airborne. When any aircraft
leaves the ground, all cellular telephones on board that aircraft must
be turned off."

Richard
ASW19
Phoenix AZ

I really wish I could carry my cell phone and use in flight as safety
backup to contact the glider port etc. if out of radio range. But all
that space taken up by the paper copies of the FCC and FAA CFR's just
does not leave space for my cell phone in the cockpit... :-)

Darryl

On Mar 4, 3:23 pm, "jeplane" wrote:
The answer to your question will depend on what type of phone you
operate, the area you are in, or even the type of airplane, which
might interfere with reception.

However, you should not forget that the use of cell phones aboard
airborne aircrafts is banned by the FCC in 47 C.F.R. § 22.925:
(Oct 1, 2006 revision) states "Cellular telephones installed in or
carried aboard airplanes, balloons or any other type of aircraft must
not be operated while such aircraft are airborne. When any aircraft
leaves the ground, all cellular telephones on board that aircraft must
be turned off."

Richard
ASW19
Phoenix AZ

*yawn* It's also against the law to loiter within the walls of
Chester, England after sunset.

Old debates ...

~tuno

On Mar 4, 7:51 pm, "Tuno" wrote:
*yawn* It's also against the law to loiter within the walls of
Chester, England after sunset.

Old debates ...

~tuno


Only if you're Welsh - I used to live in Chester and loitered there
frequently after dark!

Mike

jeplane wrote:
However, you should not forget that the use of cell phones aboard
airborne aircrafts is banned by the FCC in 47 C.F.R. § 22.925:
(Oct 1, 2006 revision) states "Cellular telephones installed in or
carried aboard airplanes, balloons or any other type of aircraft must
not be operated while such aircraft are airborne. When any aircraft
leaves the ground, all cellular telephones on board that aircraft must
be turned off."

47 CFR 22.295 applies only to "cellular telephones" (i.e. the old analog
things that operated in the 800 MHz band) licensed under Part 22. Most
of us now carry PCS (personal communications services) phones licensed
under Part 24, and as far as I can tell, the FCC has no regulations
against their use in flight...

Marc

Marc Ramsey wrote:
jeplane wrote:
However, you should not forget that the use of cell phones aboard
airborne aircrafts is banned by the FCC in 47 C.F.R. § 22.925:
(Oct 1, 2006 revision) states "Cellular telephones installed in or
carried aboard airplanes, balloons or any other type of aircraft must
not be operated while such aircraft are airborne. When any aircraft
leaves the ground, all cellular telephones on board that aircraft must
be turned off."

47 CFR 22.295 applies only to "cellular telephones" (i.e. the old analog
things that operated in the 800 MHz band) licensed under Part 22. Most
of us now carry PCS (personal communications services) phones licensed
under Part 24, and as far as I can tell, the FCC has no regulations
against their use in flight...

My cursory Google search backs up Marc's comments (not that I doubted
him - I was just curious about the details). So, unless someone can find
contrary documents, this may be the end of one of our favorite perennial
threads. May "Cell phone use in gliders" rest in peace.

And perhaps it's time to call them "mobile phones" instead of "cell
phones". I thing the Europeans have done that for years, already.

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