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"socialist" when describing Hillary Clinton
"Matt W. Barrow" wrote in
: "Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message ... On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:09:12 -0700, "Matt W. Barrow" wrote: "Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message ... On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:32:44 -0700, "Matt W. Barrow" wrote: "Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message om... On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:26:35 -0600, "Dan Luke" wrote: "Matt Whiting" wrote: And CO2 is a by-product of a warming ocean. Please refute the following point by point. :-) http://www.john-daly.com/oceanco2/oceanco2.htm What's to refute? "The sensitivity calculation, however, may be very reliable. It shows that natural temperature increase cannot be the whole reason for the increase of atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration of about 80 ppm during this century. But the question of the `Chicken and the Egg' *for the ice core measurements* seems quite clear: First comes the warming, then comes the CO2. " That has been historically true, but not this time. Now it's the CO2 leading the temp. No, it's not - sorry. Try understanding CO2 forcing action. I understand it quite well, which is why I'm emphasizing the CO2 is leading. It's the opposite of what you'd expect. IOW we are not seeing the CO2 forcing. What we are seeing is an *unnatural* rise in CO2 that is not due to nature. No, it is not un-natural...otherwise it what would explain the 4000ppm If you take a look at the legitimate scientific studies you will see that at present the CO2 rise is ahead of the temperature. Where did the CO2 come from? http://www.realclimate.org/index.php...6/how-much-of- th e-recent-cosub2sub-increase-is-due-to-human-activities/ I'd believe realclimate.org about as much as I'd believe NationalEnquirer. Whichis what the researchers say about John daly. :-)) Neither side can understand the other.:-)) At least Daly's work is backed by data that has NOT been refuted or found to be fraudulent. We're finding out that the greenies are unmitigated liars. jesus wept. Bertie |
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"socialist" when describing Hillary Clinton
"Matt W. Barrow" wrote: in message ... "Dan Luke" wrote in message ... "Matt W. Barrow" wrote: Gullibility doesn't suit someone your age. Haw! That's rich, coming from someone who fell for crackpot Prof. Van Zandt's "proof" that humanity can't possibly be causing the CO2 level to go up. Did you think no one would remember? Oh...as "refuted" by realclimate? No; by me and Logajan. You remember him, don't you? The guy you lied about kill-filing. And got caught. I remember your "refutation". Your memory is either failing or selective, Matt. The math was wrong. The Professor mixed up carbon and carbon dioxide. This was pointed out to you. You ran away. And he never said humanity was causing it to go up...he said it was not even a spit in the ocean. I guess you meant to write "humanity *wasn't* causing it to go up." Bull****. That's exactly what he said. And you fell for it because you'll fall for any crackpot denier BS you come across. Here's what the ol' perfesser concluded: Quote:
Why don't you trying learning to comprehend rather than just barf back? Haw-haw! Yer killin' me, Matt. You want to give *me* advice about not barfing back? After you regurgitated the ol' perfesser's BS in multiple places on usenet without ever noticing it was based on an elementary error? Tee-hee. You're a riot. I remember, too, that your were quite taken by Michael Mann's glaring fraud. Get a clue. Still clinging to the ol' hockey stick straw, aren't you, Matt? You haven't been paying attention, have you? Here's a clue or two for *you*: In 2006 Congress mandated an investigation of Mann, et al.'s work by the NRC. With a few reservations, the NRC's report endorsed the findings of Mann et al, 1998 and Mann et al, 1999. http://www.desmogblog.com/nrc-exoner...adian-skeptics They certainly didn't find any fraud. Your calling Mann one is a lie. And that was a long time ago. All subsequent proxy reconstructions published by other scientists have produced graphs shaped like --guess what?-- hockey sticks: http://www.globalwarmingart.com/wiki...Comparison_png Try to keep up. Or don't; I don't care. But don't think you can post your usual crap in here and not get called on it. -- Dan T-182T at BFM |
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