CNX-80 vs Garmin 430/530

It looks like the new CNX-80 is the way of the future. Has anyone used
one?

Paul DeSmet wrote:
It looks like the new CNX-80 is the way of the future. Has anyone used
one?

O.K.. I read some of these msgs. Does it look like WAAS is going to die
on the Vine? If so is there any reason to go with a CNX 80? I'm now
thinking about getting an Apollo GX 55 instead and save a bunch a money.
I have an Anywhere Map IPAC. That does a great job for situational
awareness. The GX 55 gets me into the IFR GPS for less than 7K
installed? Eventually I can add the MX 20 display. Thoughts?

I faced a similar decision, but went with the CNX80,
primarily because it meets TSO-C146a for precision approaches.
The GX55 is certified only under the old TSO-C129,
and I chose to buy for the future instead of the past.

I'll roll my airplane out of the avionics shop a few days from now,
sporting a CNX80, MX20, and some other companion equipment.
I'm expecting great things from the new boxes, including glideslope
guidance on LNAV/VNAV approaches (as soon as the next version
of software is released early in 2004). It's in flight testing now.
Newsletter 2 tells more about it at:
http://www.garminat.com/cnx_docs.shtml

I paid extra for ChartView in my MX20, before learning how much
Jeppesen charges for the required JeppView subscription.
I'll probably buy the first year's subscription just to see if I want
to renew it in following years.
Maybe I won't find JeppView to be cost effective.

WAAS will remain useful.
Nobody but John Tarver says WAAS will "die on the vine".
---JRC---

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awareness. The GX 55 gets me into the IFR GPS for less than 7K=20
installed? Eventually I can add the MX 20 display. Thoughts?

I can't imagine why you would think that WAAS is a failed system. Read Joe
Shelton's article in the December IFR magazine...WAAS and LAAS are for real.

Bob Gardner

"Paul DeSmet" wrote in message
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Paul DeSmet wrote:
It looks like the new CNX-80 is the way of the future. Has anyone used
one?

O.K.. I read some of these msgs. Does it look like WAAS is going to die
on the Vine? If so is there any reason to go with a CNX 80? I'm now
thinking about getting an Apollo GX 55 instead and save a bunch a money.
I have an Anywhere Map IPAC. That does a great job for situational
awareness. The GX 55 gets me into the IFR GPS for less than 7K
installed? Eventually I can add the MX 20 display. Thoughts?

"Bob Gardner" wrote in message
news:WXTvb.279578$Tr4.860490@attbi_s03...
I can't imagine why you would think that WAAS is a failed system. Read Joe
Shelton's article in the December IFR magazine...WAAS and LAAS are for
real.

LAAS is for real and now that WAAS is released, we can move LAAS forward.

You can get a Garmin 430 for $7K installed now-a-days. This is WAAS
upgradeable, maybe even available by the time you do the installation.

The CNX-80 offers some nice enhancements, including a much higher
resolution display (and slightly larger than the 430, but smaller than
the 530) and a built in transponder (that slaves to a remote
transponder - the SL70T - mounted behind the panel). But at an
installed price approaching $13-$15K, some might shy away from it
initally.

I already have a 430 installed and would consider my next investment a
slaved Avidyne 550 for the bigger moving map that is completely
compatible with the 430. It includes a datalink, and they offer a
cheap pay-as-you-go service for weather and flight planning products.



Paul DeSmet wrote in message ...
Paul DeSmet wrote:
It looks like the new CNX-80 is the way of the future. Has anyone used
one?

O.K.. I read some of these msgs. Does it look like WAAS is going to die
on the Vine? If so is there any reason to go with a CNX 80? I'm now
thinking about getting an Apollo GX 55 instead and save a bunch a money.
I have an Anywhere Map IPAC. That does a great job for situational
awareness. The GX 55 gets me into the IFR GPS for less than 7K
installed? Eventually I can add the MX 20 display. Thoughts?

(Dave) wrote in message . com...
You can get a Garmin 430 for $7K installed now-a-days. This is WAAS
upgradeable, maybe even available by the time you do the installation.

Dave,

Where can I get a Garmin 430, installed, for $7000? Last time I
checked, about 6 months ago, I was told about $11,000 +/- $500
installed, with new indicator, cerified etc.
Steve M

Mine was 9200$ installed.
this was IFR certified. I did not need a new indicator or nav head since I had an HSI for it to drive.

Jeff
http://www.turboarrow3.com


smackey wrote:

Where can I get a Garmin 430, installed, for $7000? Last time I
checked, about 6 months ago, I was told about $11,000 +/- $500
installed, with new indicator, cerified etc.
Steve M

I had a Garmin 430 with Garmin indicator installed and certified in my
Mooney in February for $8850. Shop was Tim Mathison Avionics in LaFayette,
GA

--
Ken Martin
N5888Q '65 M20C
Kingsport, TN KTRI
"Jeff" wrote in message
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Mine was 9200$ installed.
this was IFR certified. I did not need a new indicator or nav head since I
had an HSI for it to drive.

Jeff
http://www.turboarrow3.com


smackey wrote:

Where can I get a Garmin 430, installed, for $7000? Last time I
checked, about 6 months ago, I was told about $11,000 +/- $500
installed, with new indicator, cerified etc.
Steve M

paul, you can download and install the traner for most of garmins GPS's. go
to garmin.com and then to avionics. its free andit will give you a feel for
what they do. the cnx80 is about the only one that does not have a trainer
for it online.

Paul DeSmet wrote:

Paul DeSmet wrote:
It looks like the new CNX-80 is the way of the future. Has anyone used
one?

O.K.. I read some of these msgs. Does it look like WAAS is going to die
on the Vine? If so is there any reason to go with a CNX 80? I'm now
thinking about getting an Apollo GX 55 instead and save a bunch a money.
I have an Anywhere Map IPAC. That does a great job for situational
awareness. The GX 55 gets me into the IFR GPS for less than 7K
installed? Eventually I can add the MX 20 display. Thoughts?