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Bonnie Dick - Boney Dick
Dry "I" - Intrepid Benny Boat - Bennington Filthy Phil - Philippine Sea SeaVan 65 - Reusable Container 65 - Enterprise CVA Sick One - Ranger (ate twelve boilers between Bremerton and Pearl, 1964?) -- My real e-mail address is: "José Herculano" wrote in message ... Forrestal-FID-First in Diffuculty Forest Fire... Bonnie Dick And remember the Dike, when the Ike sailled for the first time with a female component.... _____________ José Herculano -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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In article ,
Allen Epps wrote: Peter- I always liked the alternative names for the old RN carriers Glorious, Furious and Courageous - Curious, Spurious and Outrageous! BRBR Forrestal-FID-First in Diffuculty "Sinking' Sara USS Indigestion Bonnie Dick Ammmerikka Midway-Maru Sure their are others...... P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer TR = Teddy Ruxpin Coral Sea = Coral Maru Vinson = Chucky V Kitty Hawk = ****ty Kitty --Mike |
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beg- Hay, 'Old Phart'! Which carriers did you fly off/on? I was on ten? or so
BRBR In airwings based on Independence, Midway and Forrestal. Have traps on Sara, Ike, Enterprise, Lex, Kennedy, Nimitz.... P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:57:00 -0800, "Mike Kanze"
wrote: Dad adds that this was a time when there was considerable unit pride within individual ships. More positive expressions of this pride were found in athletic activities like softball leagues, boxing "smokers," liberty boat races (these had oars back then) and the like. It was quite an honor, for example, to be the Pacific Fleet boxing champion in one's weight class. You'll pardon me for saying that I wonder how we could get that back, including in the Army and other services. Thoughts, all? How WOULD one work on unit pride/unit identification/unit cohesion in the modern environment? John |
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On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 09:57:35 -0500, Allen Epps
wrote: TR = Teddy Ruxpin Hey, I *liked* Teddy Ruxpin. Then, I am 20, so I woulda been...3 when they still had those? John |
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Kearsarge = Queer barge
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:55:33 -0500, in rec.aviation.military.naval Penta
wrote: Thoughts, all? How WOULD one work on unit pride/unit identification/unit cohesion in the modern environment? Not real well. Too much turnover in personnel. Way back when it was possible to stay with the same ship or unit for several years. Nowadays, I think the average time on station is two years. |
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According to my Dad, part of this was due to the circumstances of the
Depression. For many, the armed forces were - literally - a better alternative to whatever was available at home. So there was a stronger motivation to treat one's unit as a real "home" and not just as a waypoint. And thus easier to get folks interested in "community" stuff like softball leagues. Also there was a stronger sense of community in the US 70 years ago. We were a much more homogeneous society then and diversity (as we know it today) essentially did not exist in the armed forces. From the command side, there were many collateral duties for junior officers like Athletics Officer on the larger afloat units - and these really meant something as JOs were in part evaluated on how well they performed here as well as with their more traditional duties. For example, if you were the boxing coach on a battleship you were expected to find and develop contenders within your ship's company for the fleet Battle Force boxing championships. Today, with administrivia overflowing from JO in-baskets, such attention to things like unit athletics has fallen by the wayside. Having said the above, I'm very impressed by the various expressions of unit pride I see emanating from the Iraq occupation. We've all read any number of stories about wounded service members expressing concern for their unit-mates and wanting to get back with them as soon as possible. So maybe the old-fashioned kind of pride hasn't disappeared at all, but taken on a new form. -- Mike Kanze "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." -Mark Twain "Penta" wrote in message ... On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:57:00 -0800, "Mike Kanze" wrote: Dad adds that this was a time when there was considerable unit pride within individual ships. More positive expressions of this pride were found in athletic activities like softball leagues, boxing "smokers," liberty boat races (these had oars back then) and the like. It was quite an honor, for example, to be the Pacific Fleet boxing champion in one's weight class. You'll pardon me for saying that I wonder how we could get that back, including in the Army and other services. Thoughts, all? How WOULD one work on unit pride/unit identification/unit cohesion in the modern environment? John |
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:11:56 -0600, William Hughes
wrote: Not real well. Too much turnover in personnel. Way back when it was possible to stay with the same ship or unit for several years. Nowadays, I think the average time on station is two years. Why do we do that, anyway? Actually, I'm pondering starting a new thread on this. Hold on. |
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