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Mxsmanic wrote:
Rip writes: Duh. Can you not parse "airborne". Airborne = in the air. Hot-air balloons qualify, and yet I see no useful correlation between balloon experience and fixed-wing powered aircraft experience. Ever been in a turkish prison, johnny? MS flight sim prepares no one for weather-related issues with flying, does it? You see no correlation, but if someone points one out you will deny/dismiss or otherwise refute their comments with nothing but your own fantasy-world "facts." Why even bother. |
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Tim writes:
MS flight sim prepares no one for weather-related issues with flying, does it? It does, although the model is imperfect. Flying in complete IMC in MSFS can be useful for IFR practice. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Jay Beckman wrote:
"Dennis Johnson" wrote in message . .. Greetings, I think those who are arguing that flying MS Flight Sim isn't really "flying" are on the losing side of the argument. Flying is flying, I don't care if it's a Cub without an electrical system or a computer running MS Flight Sim. As far as general procedures go, MS Flight Sim gives a great workout, and for instrument procedures, it's terrific. It's a "Survey Sim" and is mediocre at best. Because of the broad expanse of aircraft offered, it can't possibly fully model all aspects of each aircraft in full fidelity. I may be wrong, but I've always understood that that's why software like Elite or On Top devote 95% of the screen to the panel? So that maximum processor cycles can be devoted to getting the most fluid and precise response from the instruments? If a person is sitting in front of an instrument panel manipulating controls whose performance is based on aerodynamic principles, that's flying. It might be flying a simulator, but it's still flying. I must respectfully disagree. Flying requires action - reaction on three axis'. Manipulating pixels in 2D (IMO) is not flying. I think it's in our best interest to welcome anyone to this newsgroup who is interested in aviation. I wholeheartedly agreee. And if "The Albatross" were sincerely interested in aviation, he'd be welcomed with open arms. As it stands, he has made it crystal clear that he considers the experiences and collective wisdom of the aviation community to be suspect, flying is nothing more than a hobby to be enjoyed by the idle rich and GA aircraft are death traps. Personally, I'm impressed with Mxsmanic's commitment to mastering instrument procedures. OMFG!! I guess I missed those posts while shoveling through the rest of his cross-posted tripe. I'll bet he could put many of us to shame. That's a bet I'd be more than happy to take. Give the guy a break. Just as soon as he: - Learns to say Thank You - Actually listens to and attempts to learn from what others post - Learns to say Thank You - Stops refuting absolutely every last piece of information he's offered - Learns to say Thank You - Stops pronouncing that he knows better than those that "have the T-Shirt" - Learns to say Thank You - Stops belittling GA on GA-centric newsgroups - Learns to say Thank You - Stops pronouncing MSFS as the be all and end all of flight simulators - Learns to say Thank You - Starts using Google, FAA, AOPA, EAA, etc. websites of his own volition - Learns to say Thank You - Goes and takes an Intro Flight - Learns to say Thank You In case you didn't get it there, Sparky... It ain't so much the material as it is the attitude. Posting to aviation-specific newsgroups and decrying flying in general (and GA in specific), then asking the pilot community to spoon feed him answers (readily avialable from thousands of sources on the web) just so he can dismiss the answers and dump on those making the effort to answer is, IMO, the very definition of "Trolling." In short: **** Him... Jay Beckman PP-ASEL Chandler, AZ Some of the add-on aircraft are quite authentic. I fly a Cardinal and got the Dream Flight Cardinal and it does a very good job of modeling the real airplane. Dave Reinhart |
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"Dennis Johnson" wrote in
: If a person is sitting in front of an instrument panel manipulating controls whose performance is based on aerodynamic principles, that's flying. It might be flying a simulator, but it's still flying. By your definition, birds do something other than fly. Flying means being carried aloft. That's how Webster sees it. Piloting may include simulators, but flying does not. I think it's in our best interest to welcome anyone to this newsgroup who is interested in aviation. Personally, I'm impressed with Mxsmanic's commitment to mastering instrument procedures. I'll bet he could put many of us to shame. Give the guy a break. Manic's problem has nothing to do with flying, knowledge, or procedures. It has everything to do with respect and attitude. He is like a man born sightless who would scorn artists in their own gallery because they use terms like "warm colors" and "cool colors". He insists that colors cannot express temperature because he cannot feel any more warmth when he touches red and yellow than when he touches blue. He may make accurate technical statements. But, like the blind man, his appreciation of the full experience is limited. We all know that if he had just a momentary glimpse of the rainbow he would "get it". And for a brief period, many of us try to help him cure his blindness. We try to describe the colors blue and red and yellow, the feelings and emotions that are evoked when we look at a Stained-Glass Window by Chagall, a Sunflower by Van Gogh, or a Soup Can by Warhol. We hope that he will open his eyes, and see, and begin to understand. But instead he just tells us that we are wrong - that sight has nothing to do with temperature, and he doesn't need it or want it. He says we're just idiot artists because we can't explain blue and red and yellow to him. They must not exist because he doesn't get it. He will never appreciate art as anything more than the texture of ink saturated on paper. He is lost, and all he really has to do is open his eyes. What a shame. |
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Judah writes:
By your definition, birds do something other than fly. They don't have a yoke or rudder to manipulate, and they don't get the "leans," so by the definition of many other pilots here, they aren't flying, either. Flying means being carried aloft. So elevators fly. That's how Webster sees it. There's no such thing as "Webster." It's a meaningless generic term applied to dictionaries to make them sound authoritative. Manic's problem has nothing to do with flying, knowledge, or procedures. It has everything to do with respect and attitude. True. People here aren't interested in being correct or incorrect, or discussing aviation. They are interested in maintaining a social club with a stereotypical male pecking order. I'm not interested in playing the game or asking for permission to enter the treehouse, and so I'm the enemy. Aviation has nothing to do with it. The nominal topic of a newsgroup _never_ has anything to do with it, despite the claims of the club members to the contrary. We all know that if he had just a momentary glimpse of the rainbow he would "get it". No, I wouldn't. Most people have trouble understanding and accepting that not everyone is like themselves. These people tell me that I'll "get it" when I have experience X. But I know myself better than they do, and I know that I won't change. I never have in the past. But that makes me different from them, and so that is something they cannot grasp. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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