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Old November 12th 06, 06:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Ron Lee writes:

Not sure what he can help on since I understand GPS quite well.


If you think you can use GPS safely for altitude in aviation, you need
to understand it better.

I also fly in mountainous terrain which I doubt that he does.


In that case, you need to understand GPS better very soon.

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Old November 12th 06, 06:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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You CLEARLY don't understand GPS at all!

Karl

"Ron Lee" wrote in message
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"karl gruber" wrote:


"Ron Lee" wrote in message
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Stefan wrote:

The only use for GPS altitude in aviation is to calculate the final
glide of a glider. (Or an IFR approach, but I don't know enough about
IFR flight to comment this.)

Most of what you said is correct except this one. My belief is that
GPS altitude is fine for terrain separation. But not for aircraft
separation which you correctly state is based upon pressure altitude.

Ron Lee


Your belief is wrong. Could be DEAD wrong. Read MX's posts...........he
can
give you an education on this subject.


Not sure what he can help on since I understand GPS quite well. I
also fly in mountainous terrain which I doubt that he does.

Ron Lee



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Old November 12th 06, 06:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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new_CFI writes:

Unfortunatly you dont die in a sim.


Why is that unfortunate? That's one of the advantages to simulation.
Indeed, when you clip a mountaintop east of Telluride because you
trusted the GPS altitude in your simulator, you learn a valuable
lesson that may keep you from getting killed in real life.

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Old November 12th 06, 06:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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In article ,
Mxsmanic wrote:

new_CFI writes:

Unfortunatly you dont die in a sim.


Why is that unfortunate? That's one of the advantages to simulation.
Indeed, when you clip a mountaintop east of Telluride because you
trusted the GPS altitude in your simulator, you learn a valuable
lesson that may keep you from getting killed in real life.


One of the advantages of masturbation is that you can't get AIDS from it.
That hardly makes it a complete substitute for a real person of the
opposite gender.
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Old November 12th 06, 07:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Roy Smith writes:

One of the advantages of masturbation is that you can't get AIDS from it.
That hardly makes it a complete substitute for a real person of the
opposite gender.


In surveys I've seen, many people have said that they masturbate
precisely because it doesn't carry the risk of STDs that sexual
intercourse has. And supposedly masturbation produces more intense
orgasms than intercourse as well. While these parallels are not
completely relevant to flight simulation, they do illustrate why
simulation is sometimes preferable to reality. Certainly this is the
case when it comes to dire emergencies and accidents--whence the
popularity of simulators in flight training.

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Old November 12th 06, 07:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Nope. Knew that.

mike

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mike regish writes:

Dang. I actually learned something from this post.


You've also learned about GPS.

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Old November 12th 06, 07:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"BT" wrote:
he's flying a friggin sim..


This forum is open to everyone, clued and clueless, sane and insane, so
it's impossible to tell by the absurdity of a post whether it is being
posted in jest or is sincerely believed by the poster. Hence my question.


"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
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"BT" wrote:
you land every 100 miles or less
reset your altimeter to field elevation
and then fly another 100 miles


I presume you're trying to pull his leg?




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Old November 12th 06, 07:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Peter Duniho
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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they give altitude, accurate to within a few feet. just set
the altimeter to read the same. then you know adjusted
pressure. considering the legal requirements, it is
perfectly adequate.


First of all, no they don't give altitude accurate to within a few feet.
Secondly, they give a completely different kind of altitude measurement than
the altimeter provides. Even if the GPS were accurate to within feet for
altitude, setting your altimeter to the GPS displayed altitude would not be
the same as having the current, local altimeter setting.

Pete


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Old November 12th 06, 08:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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My regular altimeter broke, and while it was being fixed I flew using
the altimeter in my IFR GPS -- which is coupled to the altimeter in my
transponder--and which BTW has an adjustment for barometer reading. I
am not sure exactly how it works, I think it uses both GPS and the
transponder altimeter reading. It was King KLN90B and a King
transponder, if that matters.

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Old November 12th 06, 08:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 06:43:31 -0500, mike regish wrote:
I think we can judge 1000' from the air better than somebody on the
ground because we spend a lot of time in the pattern at 1000' agl. We gt
used to the perspective and can verify it with our altimeters.


Plus, there is also the issue of we have more to took at to get a
reference on... People on the ground are trying to judge distance by
looking at a single object that is relatively rather small... Nothing to
really compare it to... On the other hand, if we are above water with no
surrounding terrain or boats, I would suspect that we might have a bit
more difficulty judging altitude...
 




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