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They call it the impossible turn.
Ricky wrote
You are so wrong. You do not fly, have never had any flight training, and anything that comes from you should not be taken seriously. NO Ricky....YOU are so wrong...It will probably come as quite shock to you to find that the FAA will issue a Basic Ground Instructor Certificate, an Advanced Ground Instructor Certificate, and an Instrument Instructor Certificate to individuals who have never set foot in an aircraft. Being a pilot is not a requirement to teach aviation subjects to prospective pilots. Robert Moore PanAm Retired ATP ASMEL...B-727 B-707 L-188 USN S-2 P-2 P-3 CFI CFII AGI IGI From The FAR..... To be eligible for a ground instructor certificate, you must Be at least 18 years of age. Be able to read, write, and converse fluently in English. Exhibit practical and theoretical knowledge by passing the Fundamentals of Instructing (FOI) and the appropriate ground instructor knowledge tests. Ground instructor certificates cover three levels of certification: Basic ground instructor (BGI) may provide Ground training in the aeronautical knowledge areas required for a recreational or private pilot certificate Ground training required for a recreational or private pilot flight review A recommendation for the recreational or private pilot knowledge test Advanced ground instructor (AGI) may provide: Ground training in the aeronautical knowledge areas required for any certificate or rating Ground training required for any flight review A recommendation for a knowledge test required for any certificate Instrument ground instructor (IGI) may provide: Ground training in the aeronautical knowledge areas required for an instrument rating to a pilot or instructor certificate Ground training required for an instrument proficiency check A recommendation for the instrument rating knowledge test for a pilot or instructor certificate |
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They call it the impossible turn.
Ricky wrote:
On Feb 11, 6:23 am, Mxsmanic wrote: It's the other way around: Training is intended to make it clear that turning back is not an option by default, not by exception. As a general rule, you never try to turn around. You are so wrong. You do not fly, have never had any flight training, and anything that comes from you should not be taken seriously. Be a Good Boy, Ricky, and think twice before trying to put down someone whose advice in this matter has been a life saver for pilots- and will again be.... Brian W |
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They call it the impossible turn.
On Feb 12, 4:05*am, Robert Moore wrote:
Exhibit practical and theoretical knowledge by passing the Fundamentals of Instructing (FOI) and the appropriate ground instructor knowledge tests. Yup Even though he needs no hours flying he needs to demonstrate that he understands the practical behind his lectures. Here (until recently) all our lectures regarding aviation were carried out by the flight instructor. |
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They call it the impossible turn.
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They call it the impossible turn.
On Feb 10, 11:53*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Clark writes: The point of this type of "training" presentation is to get aviators to think about a particular situation, review their training for that situation, and perhaps take recurrent training. The outcome of one particular case isn't as important as motivating aviators to update their training. The point of this presentation is to attract viewers. Unfortunately, it will have exactly the opposite effect of what you suggest. Many of the pilots seeing the video will leave it with the impression that it is in fact safe to try to turn back to the airport. They will retain the exception and forget the rule. The pilots most likely to do this are the same ones who are already prone to make this mistake themselves. Pilots who know better will not have their minds changed by the video and will not profit from seeing it, since they already know how dangerous it is to attempt this type of turn. Pilots destined to kill themselves notice and retain only what reinforces what they wish to believe; and they ignore everything else. Pilots destined never to make this mistake already know of the danger in the maneuver and don't need to be told how dangerous it is. What makes you think many pilots seeing the video will think its safe to do? You obviously didnt and you have never even had any flying training, |
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They call it the impossible turn.
Clark writes:
I'll repeat myself one more time. The training is to know when you can turn around. There is almost always some point above which a return to the field is possible & probable. That point is different for various aircraft and pilot skill levels. If there's a flat spot in front of you and you've lost all power, it's better to land there than to try to turn around. |
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They call it the impossible turn.
terry writes:
What makes you think many pilots seeing the video will think its safe to do? I see a number of pilots here who already think it's safe to do. People who think that way will only be encouraged by the video. |
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They call it the impossible turn.
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... terry writes: What makes you think many pilots seeing the video will think its safe to do? I see a number of pilots here who already think it's safe to do. People who think that way will only be encouraged by the video. Not necessarily. And I don't say that it is a safe thing to do. As you correctly pointed out in another thread - if there's a flat spot in front of you, then try for that. At many many airports you don't have that luxury because of rough vegetation, industrial & residential built up areas. Turning back is sometimes the only choice that will give you and others the best opportunity to survive. Bruce |
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They call it the impossible turn.
WayPoint writes:
At many many airports you don't have that luxury because of rough vegetation, industrial & residential built up areas. Turning back is sometimes the only choice that will give you and others the best opportunity to survive. Obviously, if there are only jagged rocks or other unpleasant things in front of you, then your only option is to try to turn. But many pilots get in trouble because they don't want to do expensive damage to their airplanes, and they end up killing themselves in an attempt to save on money or insurance. The phenomenon is not limited to pilots. To a certain extent one can rationalize this by thinking that broken bones may heal but broken airplanes must be fixed or replaced. There is a logic to that, but the probabilities and other factors are often incorrectly assessed by the person making the decision. The probability of dying or serious, life-altering injury is far higher than the pilot is willing to admit. Optimism encourages him to make a bad decision. If the area in front of the airplane is truly flat, smooth, and safe, so much so that there's no harm in landing on it, I wonder how many pilots would still be tempted to turn around. If you know you can land ahead off the runway with no damage to the airplane, is there still any reason to turn around? |
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They call it the impossible turn.
On Feb 13, 4:58*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
If the area in front of the airplane is truly flat, smooth, and safe, so much so that there's no harm in landing on it, I wonder how many pilots would still be tempted to turn around. If you know you can land ahead off the runway with no damage to the airplane, is there still any reason to turn around? Why are you obsessed with a part of flight that has no meaning to you? Just hit Control ALT Delete and walk away. Leave the real stuff to real pilots. The good and even great advice that has been handed out in here you have ignored or turned into a game of semantics. Go forth and multipy ! |
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