(Photo) Su-24 Flanker or MiG-23/MiG-27?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...T2008080802320

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...ry/2008/08/08/
GA2008080802276.html?sid=ST2008080802320

Looks like the Flanker but I could be wrong, I can't quite tell if
that is a single or double exhaust. Photo #10. I saw reports of Su-24s
in the area before but this is the first photo I've seen from this
fighting that looks like one.

On 10 Aug, 17:27, "David E. Powell" wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08/08/08/GA200...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...ry/2008/08/08/
GA2008080802276.html?sid=ST2008080802320

Looks like the Flanker but I could be wrong, I can't quite tell if
that is a single or double exhaust. Photo #10. I saw reports of Su-24s
in the area before but this is the first photo I've seen from this
fighting that looks like one.

Fencer not Flanker:-) It seems to have that slightly upturned nose of
the Su24

Guy

"David E. Powell" wrote:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...T2008080802320

Looks like the Flanker but I could be wrong, I can't quite tell if
that is a single or double exhaust. Photo #10. [...]

It looks more like an SU-24 Fencer
(http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/su-24.htm).
Distinguishing marks are the radome, vertical stab, and the
external fuel tank mounting.
--
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"David E. Powell" wrote:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...T2008080802320

Looks like the Flanker but I could be wrong, I can't quite tell if
that is a single or double exhaust. Photo #10. [...]

It looks more like an SU-24 Fencer
(http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/su-24.htm).
Distinguishing marks are the radome, vertical stab, and the
external fuel tank mounting.

Definitely FENCER: single vert stab and variable geometry, no deep ventral
strake, the latter ruling out FLOGGER. The thought of regiments of these
flying with ARMs kept us air defenders in West Germany awake at night as we
updated our estimates and recalculated our ammo expenditure rates.
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On Aug 10, 1:56*pm, "Andrew Chaplin"
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"George Ruch" wrote in message

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"David E. Powell" wrote:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08/08/08/GA200....

Looks like the Flanker but I could be wrong, I can't quite tell if
that is a single or double exhaust. Photo #10. [...]

It looks more like an SU-24 Fencer
(http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/su-24.htm).
Distinguishing marks are the radome, vertical stab, and the
external fuel tank mounting.

Definitely FENCER: single vert stab and variable geometry, no deep ventral
strake, the latter ruling out FLOGGER. The thought of regiments of these
flying with ARMs kept us air defenders in West Germany awake at night as we
updated our estimates and recalculated our ammo expenditure rates.
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

Thank you guys. I'm sorry, I got so caught in the moment I confused my
NATO designations :*(

* = Blush

Recon Fencer then? For stuff like the long strikes into certain areas
I could see them being used.

Has a lot of attack missions it can be configured for, everything from
naval attack to Maverick-type missiles to laser guided I am guessing.
Wonder if the Russians have some sort of JDAM type unit tied into
their GLONASS system or even GPS?

should be Recon Fencer

Yuri

On Aug 10, 1:56*pm, "Andrew Chaplin"
wrote:
"George Ruch" wrote in message

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"David E. Powell" wrote:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08/08/08/GA200....

Looks like the Flanker but I could be wrong, I can't quite tell if
that is a single or double exhaust. Photo #10. [...]

It looks more like anSU-24Fencer
(http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/su-24.htm).
Distinguishing marks are the radome, vertical stab, and the
external fuel tank mounting.

Definitely FENCER: single vert stab and variable geometry, no deep ventral
strake, the latter ruling out FLOGGER. The thought of regiments of these
flying with ARMs kept us air defenders in West Germany awake at night as we
updated our estimates and recalculated our ammo expenditure rates.

Thank you.

My main knowledge of the Su-24 came from playing "Harpoon" where I
found it to be a great "go to" plane for just about any kind of attack
mission. Want to go after land targets? Hang iron or guided bombs and
the Fencer is your plane. Want to go after ships? Hang air to ground
or anti ship missiles and the Fencer is your plane. Want to shoot at
just about anything else? Load whatever you want from a pretty large
catalog, and the Fencer is still your plane.

That was all for a game, and you have much more knowledge of the type
than I do.

I got into this, actually, after the fall of the Berlin wall, so I
sort of wondered if the Russians had held on to any of their stocks of
older weapons to use against terrorists, etc. where the new stuff
might not be needed. I guess they have plenty of the newer ones now,
though.

the Su-24 just always struck me as am impressive machine.

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Andrew Chaplin
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SU-24 = F-111 wannabe

150flivver wrote:
SU-24 = F-111 wannabe

That's why F-111 is still in service and Su-24 has been long-retired.
Oh, wait a minute...

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On 10 Aug, 17:27, "David E. Powell" wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08/08/08/GA200...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...ry/2008/08/08/
GA2008080802276.html?sid=ST2008080802320

Looks like the Flanker but I could be wrong, I can't quite tell if
that is a single or double exhaust. Photo #10. I saw reports of Su-24s
in the area before but this is the first photo I've seen from this
fighting that looks like one.

Su-24 Fencer E. It is the dedicated recce variant.

TJ