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Sport Pilot
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Does having a private pilot single enging land qualify to get you a sport pilot ticket? Seems like it should but I have never read so. What do we have to do to get that ticket. As I get older and think of giving up the Archer, (and before losing my medical for some reason) the Sport might be a good thing to have for a few years just for fun flying on good days. Chuck |
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Chuck... as many people that have read the new Sport Pilot information.. is
as many different interpretations as you will get. If you currently have a VALID ClassIII medical or higher, and a Private Pilot Certificate. You can fly Light Sport Aircraft, J-3, small Taylor Craft, etc that qualify as "Airplane", but also "Light Sport Aircraft" If you CHOOSE to not renew the ClassIII medical, and will limit yourself to Light Sport Aircraft, and fly under Light Sport Aircraft RULES, altitude limits, distance limits, endorsements for special airspace etc, then you can continue to fly that J-3 Cub with your current ratings. I do not believe there is any special paperwork required to get the Sport Pilot "rating", however if you choose to fly a LSA like a powered trike, either weight shift or 3 axis, then you will have to get the endorsements for qualification in those aircraft. However I do not think you need to replace your Private Ticket for a Sport Pilot certificate, just the endorsements and paperwork for qualification. HOWEVER, if you are DENIED a ClassIII medical, due to any reason, or you have a medical condition that would force your ClassIII to be invalid before it expired, then you cannot fly as a Sport Pilot on your "drivers license medical". You first have to clear the medical issue with the FAA, get a new ClassIII, then allow it to expire and then fly under Sport Pilot rules. I know.. it does not make sense. BT "PaulaJay1" wrote in message ... Question. Does having a private pilot single enging land qualify to get you a sport pilot ticket? Seems like it should but I have never read so. What do we have to do to get that ticket. As I get older and think of giving up the Archer, (and before losing my medical for some reason) the Sport might be a good thing to have for a few years just for fun flying on good days. Chuck |
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What about those of us flying under Special Issue Class III? Can I do
sport pilot if I just let it lapse? I've never actually had a denial: address the problem up front and got my special issue before meeting the examiner. |
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BTIZ wrote: Chuck... as many people that have read the new Sport Pilot information.. is as many different interpretations as you will get. If you currently have a VALID ClassIII medical or higher, and a Private Pilot Certificate. You can fly Light Sport Aircraft, J-3, small Taylor Craft, etc that qualify as "Airplane", but also "Light Sport Aircraft" As a private pilot, can we fly LSA certified aircraft (of where there are currently none, but will be some)? There seems to be a lot of confusion about LSA aircraft. I believe a SP can fly a J-3, but a J-3 is still a normal category certified aircraft. I believe a new category will be put on some airplanes called "LSA" that will allow owners to do some maintenance. -Robert |
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FAR 61.303(b) A person using a current and valid U.S. drivers license to
meet the requirements of this paragraph must- (1) Comply with restrictions and limitations imposed by that person's drivers license and any judicial or administrative order applying to the operation of a motor vehicle; (2) Have been found eligible for the issuance of at least a third class airman medical certificate at the time of his most recent application (if the person has applied for a medical certificate); (3) Not had his most recently issued medical certificate (if the person has held a medical certificate) suspended or revoked OR MOST RECENT AUTHORIZATION OF SPECIAL ISSUANCE of a medical certificate withdrawn; AND (4) not know or have reason to know of any medical condition that would make that person unable to operate a light sport aircraft in a safe manner. Soo... what that means to me.. and I am not a law judge.. (1) you have a Current and Valid Special Issue (2) you allow it to lapse and not be renewed, it was not revoked because the heart problem got worse.. or what ever the special waiver is for (3) your drivers license says you have to wear glasses, if diabetic, must check sugar level every hour.. etc.. (you must comply with restrictions on the auto license) (4) the judge did not say you cannot drive for DUI, to many driving violations (points) against the drivers license which would revoke the license (5) you are not currently suffering from a cold and taking cold medications that could cause drowsiness or dizziness AND you don't know of any other medical problems that would have deemed you ineligible to fly. Fly as a Sport Pilot, in Light Sport Aircraft.. and be safe.. BT wrote in message ups.com... What about those of us flying under Special Issue Class III? Can I do sport pilot if I just let it lapse? I've never actually had a denial: address the problem up front and got my special issue before meeting the examiner. |
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go to FAA and do a document search for "Sport Pilot Rule7_19" it is a MS
Word document and gets heavy into the explanation and determination of rules now contained in the 2005 version of FAR 61., it might also be found on the AOPA or EAA web pages BT wrote in message ups.com... What about those of us flying under Special Issue Class III? Can I do sport pilot if I just let it lapse? I've never actually had a denial: address the problem up front and got my special issue before meeting the examiner. |
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The way the AOPA/EAA have always described it was that a private/commercial/ATP pilot could "exercise sport pilot privileges" to fly fixed-wing aircraft without needing any changes to their ticket. The Light Sport Aircraft thing is a new route to a restricted form of certification of *aircraft* and has nothing to do with pilot certification. A pilot can exercise sport pilot privileges in any aircraft certified as an LSA or Normal/Aero/Utility category so long as it meets specific performance & operating limitations. Of course it's implict that an aircraft certified as a LSA will meet those restrictions. -cwk. "Robert M. Gary" wrote in message oups.com... BTIZ wrote: Chuck... as many people that have read the new Sport Pilot information.. is as many different interpretations as you will get. If you currently have a VALID ClassIII medical or higher, and a Private Pilot Certificate. You can fly Light Sport Aircraft, J-3, small Taylor Craft, etc that qualify as "Airplane", but also "Light Sport Aircraft" As a private pilot, can we fly LSA certified aircraft (of where there are currently none, but will be some)? There seems to be a lot of confusion about LSA aircraft. I believe a SP can fly a J-3, but a J-3 is still a normal category certified aircraft. I believe a new category will be put on some airplanes called "LSA" that will allow owners to do some maintenance. -Robert |
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On 5 Jan 2005 12:02:54 -0800, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:
BTIZ wrote: Chuck... as many people that have read the new Sport Pilot information.. is as many different interpretations as you will get. If you currently have a VALID ClassIII medical or higher, and a Private Pilot Certificate. You can fly Light Sport Aircraft, J-3, small Taylor Craft, etc that qualify as "Airplane", but also "Light Sport Aircraft" As a private pilot, can we fly LSA certified aircraft (of where there are currently none, but will be some)? Yes, just like you can fly Primary, Normal, Utility, Experimental, or other categories of aircraft. There seems to be a lot of confusion about LSA aircraft. I believe a SP can fly a J-3, but a J-3 is still a normal category certified aircraft. Yes. Here's a segment of a posting I made recently to rec.aviation.homebuilt: The basic confusion here is over the term, "Light Sport Aircraft." IHMO, the developers of the new rules made a mistake here, as they use the same term for two separate, but related, concepts. The first is that of "Light Sport Aircraft" as a definition. The regulation changes added this definition to 14CFR Part 1...what us'n old timers would call FAR Part 1. In Part 1, an LSA is an aircraft that has a gross weight of 1320 pounds or less, a stall speed less than 52 MPH, a flat-out level flight top speed of 138 MPH or less, etc. A person with a Sport Pilot license, or someone with a Primary, Private, Commercial, or ATP license with an honorably lapsed FAA medical (e.g., a valid medical that expired and was not revoked or renewal denied), can fly *any* aircraft that meets the LSA definition. This airplane can be licensed in ANY Category... Normal, utility, primary, experimental, restricted, limited, etc. The only exceptions I can think if is if a given aircraft has a set of operating limitations assigned by the FAA that require a minimal set of pilot qualifications. So, that's LSA as a definition. The FAA also instituted a *certification category* called "Special Light Sport Aircraft." There are two basic kinds of Airworthiness Certificate. There is the 'Standard' category. Once an aircraft receives a certificate in the Standard category, the owner can operate the aircraft with no more attention from the FAA. A Standard category aircraft can be flown for pleasure, rented, leased, or carry passengers for hire with no additional involvement from the FAA other than the operator ensuring the appropriate FARs for the type of operation be followed.. Standard category includes "Normal" category, "Utility," "Aerobatic," "Commuter," and "Transport." Each aircraft in these categories is assumed to be airworthy as long as the appropriate inspections verify that the aircraft still meet the description of its type certificate. The other basic kind of Airworthiness is the "Special" category. The Special category exists to allow aircraft that do not necessarily meet the requirements of the Standard category to be operated to perform specific tasks. This category includes Restricted, Limited, Experimental, and, now, the Light Sport Aircraft category. The Light Sport Aircraft category under the "Special" category (hence, "Special Light Sport Aircraft") was created to allow production of ready-to-fly small aircraft without requiring the level of design verification that Standard category requires. To be produced on a Standard certificate, you have to meet the FARs...and SLSAs do NOT meet the "regular" FARs. The FAA is allowing the industry itself to define the amount of testing and validation necessary for a SLSA airworthiness certificate. The only things the FAA requires is that the aircraft produced must meet the FAR Part 1 definition of an LSA, that the industry agree on the requirements *all* SLSA aircraft must meet (e.g., the consensus standards), and that every occupant of a SLSA aircraft be advised that the airplane does not meet FAA certification requirements. In other words, all SLSA aircraft must include the same kind of "Passenger Warning" that homebuilts carry. ... I believe a new category will be put on some airplanes called "LSA" that will allow owners to do some maintenance. Actually, owners of SLSAs have no more maintenance rights than owners of conventional aircraft...they can perform Preventative Maintenance. However, a new "maintenance license" has been created to go with the new category...the Light Sport-Maintenance (LS-M) Repairman Certificate. A person can obtain an LS-M Certificate after just 120 hours training (vs. ~2000+ for an A&P). Aircraft that are certified as Special Light Sport Aircraft can be maintained and annualed by an LS-M. There is also a new type of Experimental aircraft, the Experimental LSA. See rec.aviation.homebuilt for an ongoing discussion of the ramifications of this. Those who are interested can see an article I wrote about the new rules at: http://www.kitplanes.com/sportplanes...Revolution.pdf Ron Wanttaja |
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In article .com, "Robert M.
Gary" writes: If you currently have a VALID ClassIII medical or higher, and a Private Pilot Certificate. You can fly Light Sport Aircraft, J-3, small Taylor Craft, etc that qualify as "Airplane", but also "Light Sport Aircraft" No question about that, Robert. But a Sport ticket requires no medical. But I have heard that if you lose you medical you cannot get the Sport. So the question is - can you get the Sport before you might lose the medical and continue to fly "light Aircraft" when not being qualified to fly the big ones like my Archer. Chuck |
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No question about that, Robert. But a Sport ticket requires no medical. But I have heard that if you lose you medical you cannot get the Sport. So the question is - can you get the Sport before you might lose the medical and continue to fly "light Aircraft" when not being qualified to fly the big ones like my Archer. Chuck The Sport Ticket Does require a medical, it's what you have to have to pass your auto drivers license. I do not believe that you can get an "issued" Sport Pilot Certificate, because you already have a higher rating. The trick here is to allow your Current medical to expire, and limit yourself to sport aircraft.. and sport aircraft rules.. altitude, location where you can fly, etc. BECAUSE, If have a medical certificate and you LOSE the medical, you can't fly sport pilot until you clear the issue that lost you the medical. You just can't go straight to.. I don't need a medical status. Re Read 61.303(b) BT |
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