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"Greg Esres" wrote in message ... I suspect the lack of complaint from ATC is no indication that ATC is pleased with a pilot's behavior. Why would that behavior displease ATC? |
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Why would that behavior displease ATC?
I didn't say it would. I just said the lack of complaint is no indication either way. |
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"Richard Kaplan" wrote in message s.com... "Stan Gosnell" me@work wrote in message ... You can descend from 7000' to 3000' whenever you're ready, but you need to report when you do. You would report leaving 7000' Where is it written that any report is needed other than the initial acknowledgment of the pilot discretion clearance? I would maintain that acknowledging the pilot discretion clearance satisfies the requirement to report leaving the altitude. In fact, I have on a number of occasions done just that and not reported to ATC when I began a pilot-discretion descent, with no complaint from anyone. Has anyone here ever acknowledged a pilot discretion clearance and then started a descent at some later point and received a complaint from ATC that a second report was needed prior to beginning a descent? -- -------------------- Richard Kaplan, CFII www.flyimc.com No. That is what the black letters all in a row that translate to "pilot discretion" mean. I've done hundreds of them in small aircraft and heavy (450,000+ lbs). |
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No. That is what the black letters all in a row that translate to "pilot discretion" mean. I've done hundreds of them in small aircraft and heavy (450,000+ lbs). I have a similar background. When I was flying the air carrier aircraft, the company I worked for had as policy that its crews would report leaving a previously assigned altitude, whether PD or not. There reasoning was it removed any possibility of ambiguity. When there are two options, and there is any doubt as to which is right (or wrong) exercise the option that has the least cost if wrong. |
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wrote in message ... I have a similar background. When I was flying the air carrier aircraft, the company I worked for had as policy that its crews would report leaving a previously assigned altitude, whether PD or not. There reasoning was it removed any possibility of ambiguity. Where was ambiguity possible? When there are two options, and there is any doubt as to which is right (or wrong) exercise the option that has the least cost if wrong. What is the cost? |
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wrote in message ... No. That is what the black letters all in a row that translate to "pilot discretion" mean. I've done hundreds of them in small aircraft and heavy (450,000+ lbs). I have a similar background. When I was flying the air carrier aircraft, the company I worked for had as policy that its crews would report leaving a previously assigned altitude, whether PD or not. There reasoning was it removed any possibility of ambiguity. When there are two options, and there is any doubt as to which is right (or wrong) exercise the option that has the least cost if wrong. I agree Sammy. I was just responding to Richard's question about whether I'd ever received a "complaint" from ATC by starting a PD a few minutes after receiving it wtihout notifying the controller. I usually did make a brief "XYZ departing 190" call for precisely the reason you're speaking about. But when I didn't, due to radio congestion, I never had any controlling agency ask why. JB |
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