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MMU 5 DP lost comm question
not properly equpped?
No VOR receivers on board?. On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:34:14 -0500, "pgbnh" wrote: See earlier post. "Illegal" was the wrong word. But, doing what you advocated - navigating direct BIGGY using the handheld (AS THE PRIMARY NAV SOURCE) is not permitted. The OP already indicated he could not navigate direct BIGGY because he was not properly equipped. wrote in message .. . Wrong.. On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:41:19 -0500, "pgbnh" wrote: Ummm. I think :in this day and age anyone who flies IFR in IMC WITH a GPS handheld, which would enable you to fly direct BIGGY, is just plain illegal. There are reasons that IFR certified GPS systems are certified wrote in message news In this day and age, anyone who flies IFR in IMC withut a GPS handheld, which would enable you to fly direct BIGGY, is just plain foolish... On 12 Nov 2007 04:10:11 GMT, Andrey Serbinenko wrote: A question to IR pilots. Suppose we have the following situation: a flight departing from MMU rw 23, cleared as follows: "Morristown 5 dep, vectors to BIGGY, then V3, MAZIE, etc... 2000 feet, expect 4000 10 minutes after departure, dep freq, squawk etc..." Now, during climb-out via heading 210 we lose communication. It is IMC. Standard question: what altitudes and routing you'd fly? The aircraft we're flying is /U, so we can't navigate direct BIGGY. First question: would you keep flying the DP, i.e. left turn 160? If so, for how long would you fly heading 160 after you turn? Lost comm instructions in the DP do not apply to us since we're southbound. In order to get onto V3 you'd probably need to fly direct SBJ, and proceed from there, but SBJ is not part of your clearance? Second question -- the altitude: OROCA in the quadrant is 2900. MSA provided by Jepp for CAT is 2000 in this sector. Would you climb to 4000 right away, or you'd wait for 10 mins? MEAs of the airways in that vicinity are 2300 and 3000 feet. Andrey |
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MMU 5 DP lost comm question
"Andrey Serbinenko" wrote in message ... A question to IR pilots. Suppose we have the following situation: a flight departing from MMU rw 23, cleared as follows: "Morristown 5 dep, vectors to BIGGY, then V3, MAZIE, etc... 2000 feet, expect 4000 10 minutes after departure, dep freq, squawk etc..." Now, during climb-out via heading 210 we lose communication. It is IMC. Standard question: what altitudes and routing you'd fly? The aircraft we're flying is /U, so we can't navigate direct BIGGY. First question: would you keep flying the DP, i.e. left turn 160? No. If so, for how long would you fly heading 160 after you turn? Lost comm instructions in the DP do not apply to us since we're southbound. In order to get onto V3 you'd probably need to fly direct SBJ, and proceed from there, but SBJ is not part of your clearance? The DP states "....as per notes or via vectors to assigned route/fix." The note for BIGGY states, "departures expect vectors via SBJ/SBJ R-237." Looks to me like SBJ is part of the clearance. Second question -- the altitude: OROCA in the quadrant is 2900. MSA provided by Jepp for CAT is 2000 in this sector. Would you climb to 4000 right away, or you'd wait for 10 mins? MEAs of the airways in that vicinity are 2300 and 3000 feet. I'd proceed direct to SBJ and join V3, maintain 2000 until BIGGY, climb to 2500, climb to 4000 ten minutes after departure. |
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