No touch and go's?

John Jones wrote:

So would I be in accordance with the noise abatement policy if I just
did one ILS, land, then quietly depart? The way I see it, I'm not
making any more noise than a transient that decides to land there,
taxi off to get fuel, then departs again.

Yes, you would be acting in accordance with the policy. And you are right
you are not, but come on John this isn't your first rodeo is it? Since when
did rules have to be logical?

There is probably some group near the airport that wants to shut the place
down completely. There are those that don't want it shut down. There was a
probably some negotiation and this was the outcome.

With that in mind if you start doing this every evening they might go back
into negotiation and the outcome might be a worse rule.

On Sep 3, 9:48 pm, John Jones wrote:
In many airports out there, you'll find in the AFD in the comments
section, "No touch and go landings", and/or "no practice approaches".
A few examples off the top of my head:

http://airnav.com/airport/ksachttp:/...m/airport/kcpm

What exactly is meant by this? No touch and go landings period, or
just don't do multiple touch and go's, as in buzzing around the
pattern for an hour? It seems kind of weird to me that an airport
would totally not allow touch and go landings. I can understand not
allowing multiple touch and go's, as they create a lot of noise,
negatively effect arrivals and departures, and generally can be a big
nuisance. Compared to a full stop/taxi back, a touch and go is more
efficient, arguably less noisy, and less of a burden on other traffic
(how many times have you had to go around because some joker had to
taxi to the next taxiway?)

Is there something I'm missing?

The hope is that by requiring that you taxi back you will go somewhere
else. Some airports are so busy with arrivals that they just aren't
set up to allow TNG practice.
In addition, some airports restrict TNG's because it violates their
rule of no intersection take offs (i.e. you are required to initiate
take off from the numbers). This is the case of KSAC. You can ask for
the option and they will say "Cleared for the option, all options
approved except TNG" (they've got that script memorized! )

-Robert

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On Sep 5, 4:50 am, B A R R Y wrote:


So would I be in accordance with the noise abatement policy if I just
did one ILS, land, then quietly depart? The way I see it, I'm not
making any more noise than a transient that decides to land there,
taxi off to get fuel, then departs again.

so why not call the airport and find out exactly what they mean? Surely a
better option than everyone here trying to guess.

On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:06:26 +0100, "S Green"
wrote:
so why not call the airport and find out exactly what they mean? Surely a
better option than everyone here trying to guess.

I suggested that @ 0735 on 9/4, but it got shot down as "too much
bother to sit on hold." G