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Old November 9th 05, 02:52 AM
Victor J. Osborne, Jr.
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I used to put VFR GPS in remarks and would get direct from some, others, no
way.

From Atlanta center or nearby approach controllers: 'Can you negotiate
direct XYZ? " Yes
"Then N6852F, cleared direct XYZ."

When I requested direct from Indy, they said no can do, you're not /Garmin.

Guess it matters who you ask.

Thx, {|;-)

Victor J. (Jim) Osborne, Jr.

"Bob Gardner" wrote in message
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Tell them. Just as is the case with icing certification, the controllers
are not into law enforcement. Tell them you have a GPS and you will get
all of the benefits.

Bob Gardner

So...do I tell a briefer to note that I have a VFR GPS and will the
controllers take note, sending me direct, off airways? Will it make any
difference to them at all? Given the fact that nearly everyone has one
nowadays, will they assume I have a GPS even if I don't indicate it?
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Old November 9th 05, 06:03 PM
Frank Ch. Eigler
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"Bob Gardner" writes:

Tell them. Just as is the case with icing certification, the
controllers are not into law enforcement. Tell them you have a GPS
and you will get all of the benefits.


.... and as with flying in icing with substandard equipment, you will
face all the risks in case something goes wrong.

- FChE
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Old November 9th 05, 07:59 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Frank Ch. Eigler" wrote in message
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... and as with flying in icing with substandard equipment, you will
face all the risks in case something goes wrong.


What are the risks of flying IFR with a VFR GPS?


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Old November 9th 05, 08:11 PM
Peter R.
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

"Frank Ch. Eigler" wrote in message
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... and as with flying in icing with substandard equipment, you will
face all the risks in case something goes wrong.


What are the risks of flying IFR with a VFR GPS?


What happens when these VFR GPS's drop reception of all but one or two
satellites? Do they instantly provide a RAIM message?

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Old November 9th 05, 08:22 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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What happens when these VFR GPS's drop reception of all but one or two
satellites? Do they instantly provide a RAIM message?


I don't know? Is it a problem if they don't?


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Old November 9th 05, 03:08 AM
Mitty
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Default IFR with a VFR GPS

Lately it seems like when I am in a /A airplane ATC assumes I have a hand-held
(sometimes I do, sometimes I don't) and gives me direct routing without my asking.

Then, flying into Winnipeg yesterday /G I got direct routing to a waypoint that
wasn't in the G430! Some days you can't win!


On 11/8/2005 7:51 PM, Wizard of Draws wrote the following:
OK, I broke down and sprung for the Lowrance Airmap 2000c instead of the
1000. Wow.

Normally I rent a plane that has a panel-mounted IFR certified Garmin 430,
but that may change due to circumstances beyond my control in a few months.

Obviously I can't file /G IFR without a proper IFR GPS, but this one will be
used as a backup and for cross-reference at the very least.

So...do I tell a briefer to note that I have a VFR GPS and will the
controllers take note, sending me direct, off airways? Will it make any
difference to them at all? Given the fact that nearly everyone has one
nowadays, will they assume I have a GPS even if I don't indicate it?

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Old November 9th 05, 03:39 AM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Wizard of Draws" wrote in message
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So...do I tell a briefer to note that I have a VFR GPS and will the
controllers take note, sending me direct, off airways? Will it make any
difference to them at all? Given the fact that nearly everyone has one
nowadays, will they assume I have a GPS even if I don't indicate it?


If you file off airways and if radar monitoring can be provided and if
specific routing is not required for your departure/destination airport then
you'll get direct routing. Indicating you have a VFR GPS makes no
difference.


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Old November 11th 05, 12:51 AM
Stan Prevost
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Wizard of Draws" wrote in message
news:BF96C057.43EB4%jeffbREMOVE@REMOVEwizardofdraw s.com...

So...do I tell a briefer to note that I have a VFR GPS and will the
controllers take note, sending me direct, off airways? Will it make any
difference to them at all? Given the fact that nearly everyone has one
nowadays, will they assume I have a GPS even if I don't indicate it?


If you file off airways and if radar monitoring can be provided and if
specific routing is not required for your departure/destination airport
then you'll get direct routing. Indicating you have a VFR GPS makes no
difference.


That seems to be an overly broad statement. I have put "VFR GPS" in Remarks
when filing /U for an off-airways (random) route and had controllers
specifically refer to using my VFR GPS to proceed direct to an intersection.
Whether they should have done so is another issue. But is sure seemed to
make a difference.


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Old November 11th 05, 01:25 AM
Ron Lee
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"Stan Prevost" wrote:


That seems to be an overly broad statement. I have put "VFR GPS" in Remarks
when filing /U for an off-airways (random) route and had controllers
specifically refer to using my VFR GPS to proceed direct to an intersection.
Whether they should have done so is another issue. But is sure seemed to
make a difference.

Your non-IFR GPS has intersections in it? What model is it?

Ron Lee

 




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