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"Bill Zaleski" wrote in message ... Let's not make this more difficult that it is. Just check the limitations section of the FAR's pertaining to flight instructors. I agree this is what the FARs say. However, the FAA then breaks its own rules when they issue CFII-only certificates bearing "Instrument Airplane" as the category/class description since "Instrument Airplane" is not a category/class yet the FARs say an instructor can only instructor in the category/class on his instructor certificate. -------------------- Richard Kaplan, CFII www.flyimc.com |
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Category and class does NOT necessarily go on the instructor
certificate. You never see "sea" on one. You must, however, have the specific class on your pilot certificate for the aircraft you intend to give instruction in, even if it's instrument instruction. If you don't hold multi and instrument priviliges on BOTH of your certificates, you can't give ANY instrument instruction in multi's. The reason that reference is made to category and class with respect to flight instructor certificates in the exception in that an instrument- rotorcraft helicopter rating on an instructor certificate does not include gyroplane, since it doesn't exist. The same reg references the need for a type rating, if appropriate, but of course that doesn't exist either on CFI certificates. You must however, hold the type rating on the pilot cert in order to give any instruction in such an aircraft. Again, there is no gray area. FAR 61.195 (b) (aircraft ratings) is clear that you must comply with both provisions in entirety, not just one of them. The pre-1997 wording of the FAR was a grey area loophole that has been plugged. On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 14:39:37 GMT, "Richard Kaplan" wrote: "Bill Zaleski" wrote in message .. . Let's not make this more difficult that it is. Just check the limitations section of the FAR's pertaining to flight instructors. I agree this is what the FARs say. However, the FAA then breaks its own rules when they issue CFII-only certificates bearing "Instrument Airplane" as the category/class description since "Instrument Airplane" is not a category/class yet the FARs say an instructor can only instructor in the category/class on his instructor certificate. -------------------- Richard Kaplan, CFII www.flyimc.com |
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If as you say the pilot did take a practical test (flight test) for any
added rating, then they met the requirement for a BFR. End of story. I have been in this business since 1965. Second question. Is a Flight Instructor certificate the same as a pilot certificate. NO! It even has a different number. ie. It has the letters CFI at the end of the certificate number. Way back when I was a little guy, there were Flight Instructor "Ratings" on pilot certificates. That ended in the early sixties I think. There was also a time when anyone with an Instrument rating on their pilot certificate was also a Instrument flight instructor. Long gone. Don't get ramped and tell the Feds that you left your Pilot certificate at home, but you have your Flight instructor certificate with you and that will cover. Wont work. Tom "Mark Manes" wrote in message ... "Michael" wrote in message om... "C J Campbell" wrote It may be your policy, but it does not really follow the regs. Yes, I know the argument that the instructor certificate is not a pilot certificate, but it sure gets treated as a pilot certificate for all other purposes. I also know that the policy varies from one FSDO to another. Actually, it varies from one inspector to another. Not too long ago, we had a jumpship crash. The pilot did all the right things, but when the engine of a heavy single fails in the climb at 400 ft, you just don't have many options. The field was wet and rough, and there was substantial damage but no injuries. The accident was reported, and the investigation delegated to the FAA. The pilot made the mistake of noting that he never seems to hear of automobile engines having catastrophic failures, but certified airplane engines fail with depressing regularity. Next thing you know, he's written up for flying with an expired BFR - enven though he had taken his CFII ride only a few months ago. Your tax dollars at work. I also know that most examiners will sign the ride off as a BFR if you ask them to do that. That's another gray area, worse than the original. 61.56 Flight review. (a) Except as provided in paragraphs (b) and (f) of this section, a flight review consists of a minimum of 1 hour of flight training and 1 hour of ground training. The FAA is pretty adamant that a checkride is not instruction. But a checkride does count as a BFR " 61.56 Flight Review (d) A person who has, within the period specified in paragraph (c) of this section, passed a pilot proficiency check conducted by and examiner, an approved pilot check airman, or a US Armed Force, for a pilot certificate, rating or operating privilege need not accomplish the flight review required by this section." Not sure if CFI checkride counts as above, but adding an instrument rating does count as a BFR. Adding a Multi Engine or MEI counts as a BFR. Mark Personally, I don't understand why the instructor doesn't just sign the BFR. There's no way I would be comfortable signing someone off for a CFI ride and not willing to sign off a BFR. Michael --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.614 / Virus Database: 393 - Release Date: 3/5/2004 |
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