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VFR Practise Approaches
On Sep 29, 4:54*pm, Mike Adams wrote:
Back to the original question, are there any other cases (besides possibly the extremely offset localizer) when you would not be able to track the ILS when doing a VFR straight-in approach? Exactly like I said, in Bravo. If you intend to do a practice ILS approach, I would hope you would want to pick it up at the IAF? If you have been given instructions by ATC, approved straight in approach, it's expected you make a reasonable beeline to the threshold so ATC can maintain spacing. Part of that includes getting lined up for the runway so yes, you can slide down the glide slope at will but that hardly is a practice ILS approach! If you are outside the IAF and it's between you and the threshold OR OFFSET from the final approach course in a reasonable distance, sure, knock your socks off but if it requires more then a significant heading change from my nose pointed toward the threshold, I MYSELF would get a clearance for that practice approach FROM THE CONTROLLER in BRAVO airspace. All ATC sees is your nose pointing away from the airport and you right fully should get chewed out or asked what your intentions are since your deviations may become an spacing issue for the controller AND THE AIRPLANE BEHIND YOU. Mx is clueless in the real world, he plays a game in MSFS and thinks that MSFS simulates the real world. |
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On Sep 29, 5:17*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
It doesn't sound like you spend a lot of time in Class B airspace, however. |
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On Sep 29, 7:16*pm, " wrote:
Mx is clueless in the real world, he plays a game in MSFS and thinks that MSFS simulates the real world. CORRECTION TO THE ABOVE The above should read. Mx is clueless in the real world, he plays a game in MSFS and thinks that MSFS IS the real world. |
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On Sep 29, 5:16*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
writes: WRONG. YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE NOT CONSIDERING THERE IS MORE TO A GLIDE SLOPE TO AN ILS APPROACH IN RELATIONSHIP TO WHERE YOU ARE. What? EXACTLY WHAT I SAID. |
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On Sep 30, 1:36*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
writes: AND HOW MUCH TIME HAVE YOU SPENT IN BRAVO AIRSPACE AS PIC IN A REAL PLANE??????????????????? I've spent hundreds of hours in it in simulation, and SO YOU PRETEND YOU ARE SOMETHING YOU ARE NOT?????????? AND YOU STILL FAILED TO ANSWER THE DIRECT QUESTION. that's a lot more useful as experience than nearly zero hours in real life. WRONG AS YOU HAVE PROVEN BY YOUR REPLIES IN THIS THREAD. |
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Hash: SHA1 Mxsmanic wrote: writes: WRONG. I DO WHAT ATC WANTS. If ATC doesn't give you any instructions, it is impossible to do "what ATC wants." In Class B airspace, you must follow ATC instructions, but ATC won't necessarily give any restrictive instructions unless traffic conditions warrant them. This is incorrect. You forget to take into account that ATC doesn't need to talk to you at all. That in itself is restrictive. If ATC tells you "Aircraft calling for Class B clearance remain outside of Class B airspace", it is restrictive, even if they do not acknowledge you directly. If ATC doesn't answer your call, you are to remain outside of Class B until they do. If they don't answer, too bad. But I fly in the real world to know this. It doesn't sound like you spend a lot of time in Class B airspace, however. Nor do you, it seems. BL. - -- Brad Littlejohn | Email: Unix Systems Administrator, | Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! | http://www.wizard.com/~tyketto PGP: 1024D/E319F0BF 6980 AAD6 7329 E9E6 D569 F620 C819 199A E319 F0BF -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFMpZVVyBkZmuMZ8L8RAkHLAKDTsyj+6wktBVgEckgvfJ KFuviVfACgkm/t V8PHdGg5aXl4f7V+tFCPd4k= =9hgx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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A Guy Called Tyketto writes:
This is incorrect. You forget to take into account that ATC doesn't need to talk to you at all. I've already excluded that by considering only the case in which you are cleared into the Class B, which makes the rest of your post moot. |
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A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:
This is incorrect. You forget to take into account that ATC doesn't need to talk to you at all. That in itself is restrictive. If ATC tells you "Aircraft calling for Class B clearance remain outside of Class B airspace", it is restrictive, even if they do not acknowledge you directly. If ATC doesn't answer your call, you are to remain outside of Class B until they do. If they don't answer, too bad. Answering you isn't enough, if ATC does not clear you into Class B airspace you are to remain outside. |
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On Oct 1, 6:13*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
I've already excluded that by considering only the case in which you are cleared into the Class B, which makes the rest of your post moot. YOUR ORIGINAL POST WAS WRONG. |
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