Stability augmentation promises to give you even less control

On Aug 6, 7:55*am, "Stephen!" wrote:
" wrote in news:ccab996d-ac27-41ee-
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He is dead wrong in what he says in this thread. *He needs lessons on
English if he thinks a NON aviator can understand what it takes to fly
an airplane.

* I'm pretty sure you are stretching it a little here... *Care to guess
how many hours of Ground School I had when I got my PPL?

* Here's a hint: *Zero.

How many hours flying did you have ?

We didn't have (or need) 'ground schools'.
You picked up the theory as you trained and flew.

On Aug 6, 10:45*am, "Stephen!" wrote:

* Somewhere between 50 and 60. *During my training I had a bit of diffculty
with tropical weather, aircraft having proper insurance, and terrorist
attacks shutting down the airspace system that extended my time several
hours longer than it should have been.

I fooled round and didn't do my PPL until I had over 70 hours.
At the time 40 hours was the lowest time permitted

writes:

Book knowledge won't get you out of inadvertant IMC. Book knowledge
won't help you if you need to divert.

Which parts of doing these things are not documented in books?

Book knowledge tells you wat to do to avoid it and how to get out of
it but doesn't allow you to experience it first hand.

So?

Mx has absolutely NO KNOWLEDGE of what it takes to fly a real plane
with his ZERO PIC time and only MSFS time. ZERO, NADA. MSFS and real
world flying don't compare as he wants his readership to believe.

What are your total hours flying, just out of curiosity?

Friedrich Ostertag writes:

ESP undenieably saved thousands of lifes, and the conceived systems for
airplanes could possibly do the same.

ESP is nonexistent in most cars (maybe BMW or someone like that is
implementing it), so how can it be saving thousands of lives?

Just like in cars electronic systems can also outperform humans in airplanes
when it comes to tasks involving very rapid an precise reactions.

And just as in cars, digital systems have catastrophic modes of failure when
confronted with situations that were not foreseen and programmed for during
the design of the systems.

There is really not much point in arguing about stability systems
taking away authority from the pilot.

Why not? It has been hotly debated for decades, and there is still no
consensus on it.

Remember how pilots first detested the stall prevention systems
implemented by airbus?

Some pilots still detest the systems on Airbus. In any case, small aircraft
don't have stall prevention systems, as a general rule.

Not one case has been proven, where a system override over the pilots
stick input has been to the worse and caused an undesireable result.

Not one case has been proven where a system override prevented a crash.

And just like ESP on a car I would imagine that the stability augmentation
systems in airplanes could be disabled if you intendedly want to push the
envelope of your plane and know what you are doing.

I prefer a system that needs to enabled explicitly to a system that needs to
be disabled explicitly (and I don't even want to think about a system that
cannot be disabled).

On Aug 5, 11:02*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:
Book knowledge won't get you out of inadvertant IMC. *Book knowledge
won't help you if you need to divert.

Which parts of doing these things are not documented in books?

Book knowledge tells you wat to do to avoid it and how to get out of
it but doesn't allow you to experience it first hand.

So?

Mx has absolutely NO KNOWLEDGE of what it takes to fly a real plane
with his ZERO PIC time and only MSFS time. *ZERO, NADA. *MSFS and real
world flying don't compare as he wants his readership to believe.

What are your total hours flying, just out of curiosity?

Asking for experience, flying hours, qualifications etc are a total
waste of bandwidth on Usenet. The person being challenged could be a
trained Chimp with a keyboard or the King of Siam. They could also be
quite legitimate.
The ONLY accurate measure of value on any Usenet forum is the accuracy
of the information posted proven over time. Posters are usually found
to be who they claim to be or not who they claim to be over time and
posting history based on the above.

My most interesting Usenet experience occurred when someone accused me
of NOT being Dudley Henriques as he knew Dudley Henriques and I wasn't
him.
My wife promptly answered his private email to me stating that if he
knew the real Dudley Henriques, would he be kind enough to ask him to
come home immediately as the impostor she had been living with for
over 40 years didn't like to do yard work.
DH

Dudley Henriques wrote:
My most interesting Usenet experience occurred when someone accused me
of NOT being Dudley Henriques as he knew Dudley Henriques and I wasn't
him.

Maybe you have an evil twin you don't know about?

My wife promptly answered his private email to me stating that if he
knew the real Dudley Henriques, would he be kind enough to ask him to
come home immediately as the impostor she had been living with for
over 40 years didn't like to do yard work.

While I'm not a fan of weeding or watering, I do take a certain
satisfaction in mowing the yard with our riding mower.

On Aug 5, 11:45*pm, Jim Logajan wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote:
My most interesting Usenet experience occurred when someone accused me
of NOT being Dudley Henriques as he knew Dudley Henriques and I wasn't
him.

Maybe you have an evil twin you don't know about?

My wife promptly answered his private email to me stating that if he
knew the real Dudley Henriques, would he be kind enough to ask him to
come home immediately as the impostor she had been living with for
over 40 years didn't like to do yard work.

While I'm not a fan of weeding or watering, I do take a certain
satisfaction in mowing the yard with our riding mower.

YOU sir, are close to being a woman's ultimate fantasy :-))
D

Mxsmanic wrote:
Friedrich Ostertag writes:

ESP undenieably saved thousands of lifes, and the conceived systems for
airplanes could possibly do the same.

ESP is nonexistent in most cars (maybe BMW or someone like that is
implementing it), so how can it be saving thousands of lives?

Nonsense.

It has been around since at least '87 and has been implemented by about every
car maker out there world wide.


--
Jim Pennino

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On Aug 6, 3:45*pm, Jim Logajan wrote:

Maybe you have an evil twin you don't know about?

An evil twin wouldn't do 'yard work' either :-)

On Aug 5, 10:02*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:
Book knowledge won't get you out of inadvertant IMC. *Book knowledge
won't help you if you need to divert.

Which parts of doing these things are not documented in books?

What difference does it make to you. You already don't take my
answers for any value.

What are your total hours flying, just out of curiosity?

What difference does it make to you. You already don't take my
answers for any value.