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Old October 23rd 03, 04:11 AM
Big John
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On Oct 14, 2003, at 1600 daylight time, a Wright Redux Association
1903 Wright Flyer, N203WF, piloted by a private plot, received
substantial damage on impact with terrain after the airplane stalled
during takeoff at an altitude of about 30 feet at the Clow
International Airport, Bolingbrook, IL. Visual meteorological
conditions prevailed at the time of the accident. The private pilot
was uninjured. The flight was originating at the time of the accident.

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Old October 23rd 03, 05:47 AM
Kyle Boatright
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"Big John" wrote in message
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From NTSB

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On Oct 14, 2003, at 1600 daylight time, a Wright Redux Association
1903 Wright Flyer, N203WF, piloted by a private plot, received
substantial damage on impact with terrain after the airplane stalled
during takeoff at an altitude of about 30 feet at the Clow
International Airport, Bolingbrook, IL. Visual meteorological
conditions prevailed at the time of the accident. The private pilot
was uninjured. The flight was originating at the time of the accident.

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30 feet of altitude? In an aircraft that is reported to be severely
unstable in pitch? That guy must have big brass ones... I'd *try* to keep
it in ground effect, if at all possible. More performance, and maybe a
reduced chance of a *big* crash.

On the other hand, the instability may have led to the aircraft ballooning
to 30', which was followed by a stall, then a loud crunching sound.

KB


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Old October 23rd 03, 09:53 AM
Thomas Borchert
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Kyle,

In an aircraft that is reported to be severely
unstable in pitch?


Uh, you might want to check into how exact a replica that particular
replica is.

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Old October 23rd 03, 12:44 PM
Kyle Boatright
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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Kyle,

In an aircraft that is reported to be severely
unstable in pitch?


Uh, you might want to check into how exact a replica that particular
replica is.

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)


Sounds like that's gonna be tough at this point. ;-)

KB


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Old October 23rd 03, 01:58 PM
Dave Stadt
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"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
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"Big John" wrote in message
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From NTSB

quote

On Oct 14, 2003, at 1600 daylight time, a Wright Redux Association
1903 Wright Flyer, N203WF, piloted by a private plot, received
substantial damage on impact with terrain after the airplane stalled
during takeoff at an altitude of about 30 feet at the Clow
International Airport, Bolingbrook, IL. Visual meteorological
conditions prevailed at the time of the accident. The private pilot
was uninjured. The flight was originating at the time of the accident.

unquote


30 feet of altitude? In an aircraft that is reported to be severely
unstable in pitch? That guy must have big brass ones... I'd *try* to

keep
it in ground effect, if at all possible. More performance, and maybe a
reduced chance of a *big* crash.

On the other hand, the instability may have led to the aircraft ballooning
to 30', which was followed by a stall, then a loud crunching sound.

KB



Sounds to me like they reproduced the Wright Brothers first flight in the
1903 Flyer.


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Old October 23rd 03, 03:25 PM
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Big John wrote:

On Oct 14, 2003, at 1600 daylight time, a Wright Redux Association
1903 Wright Flyer, N203WF, piloted by a private plot, received
substantial damage on impact with terrain after the airplane stalled
during takeoff at an altitude of about 30 feet at the Clow
International Airport, Bolingbrook, IL.


Well, at least this one can get off the ground.

George Patterson
You can dress a hog in a tuxedo, but he still wants to roll in the mud.
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Old October 23rd 03, 03:47 PM
Ron Natalie
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"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message t...

30 feet of altitude? In an aircraft that is reported to be severely
unstable in pitch? That guy must have big brass ones... I'd *try* to keep
it in ground effect, if at all possible. More performance, and maybe a
reduced chance of a *big* crash.

I don't know about what "corrections" these guys made to the flyer. The
original (and the faithful replicas) are unstable in pitch.



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Old October 23rd 03, 04:01 PM
Thomas Borchert
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Kyle,

LOL. The first aircraft capable of making turns was the 1904 Flyer,
IIRC. The first full circle was flown in 1905, IIRC. So the 1903 Flyer
wasn't good for more than the hops it did - as you wrote.

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Old October 23rd 03, 04:04 PM
Ron Natalie
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message ...
Kyle,

LOL. The first aircraft capable of making turns was the 1904 Flyer,
IIRC. The first full circle was flown in 1905, IIRC. So the 1903 Flyer
wasn't good for more than the hops it did - as you wrote.


But the 1903 was able to fly straight in a stable fashion, indicating a small
amount of lateral control and stability.


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Old October 23rd 03, 04:20 PM
Thomas Borchert
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Ron,

But the 1903 was able to fly straight in a stable fashion, indicating a small
amount of lateral control and stability.

small being the operative word here.

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

 




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