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VFR Practise Approaches
If an approach says DME required but I dont have DME, can I still execute a VFR practise approach?
On GPS (RNAV) approaches, can I deviate from the published procedures with permission from the Tower or controlling agency if I am doing a VFR practise approach? I.E. Altitude deviation for a fix. If so, what is the reference? Thanks in advance. Last edited by ChristianFro : September 22nd 10 at 12:20 PM. |
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ChristianFro wrote:
If an approach says DME required but I dont have DME, can I still execute a VFR practise approach? Are you asking can you do it legally, or are you just asking if it's possible? Legally, remember you're VFR, so the IFR procedure rules don't really apply. If you are following the approach procedure (3D path over the ground) and not causing a problem for ATC, they can't see what's on your panel. OTOH, if you need DME distance to identify a step-down fix or missed approach point, it may be difficult to fly the procedure correctly without it. Also bear in mind you can use GPS in lieu of DME in most cases. On GPS (RNAV) approaches, can I deviate from the published procedures with permission from the Tower or controlling agency if I am doing a VFR practise approach? I.E. Altitude deviation for a fix. If you have permission from ATC, and aren't causing a safety problem (terrain or traffic separation), I don't see an issue. Remember, you are VFR. If so, what is the reference? Not sure. Mike |
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ChristianFro wrote:
If an approach says DME required but I dont have DME, can I still execute a VFR practise approach? As long as you are under VFR in VMC, you can do what you want, provided that it does not conflict with ATC instructions (if you are in airspace where ATC instructions take priority). You need not say anything to ATC about it, since you are still legally VFR. Just take care that it does not conflict with other traffic--in busy airspace you may have to obtain ATC's approval and cooperation to allow this. For example, if you are told to make straight in to the airport and you wish to capture and follow the ILS for your approach, nothing prevents you from doing so, and it's legal as long as the primary means of navigation remains VFR. If you are told to enter the pattern but you wish to practice with the ILS, you'll have to request and coordinate that with ATC. Note that ATC may not provide separation services to VFR aircraft practicing instrument approaches, and approval for a practice instrument approach does not include approval for the missed-approach procedure unless this is explicitly requested from and approved by ATC. Your VFR responsibility to see and avoid is not suspended by approval for a practice IFR approach. |
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On Sep 22, 6:22*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
For example, if you are told to make straight in to the airport and you wish to capture and follow the ILS for your approach, nothing prevents you from doing so, and it's legal as long as the primary means of navigation remains VFR. NOT ALWAYS...... |
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On Sep 26, 4:58*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
writes: On Sep 22, 6:22*pm, Mxsmanic wrote: For example, if you are told to make straight in to the airport and you wish to capture and follow the ILS for your approach, nothing prevents you from doing so, and it's legal as long as the primary means of navigation remains VFR. NOT ALWAYS...... Describe the exceptions, then. NO |
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On 9/22/2010 6:16 AM, ChristianFro wrote:
If an approach says DME required but I dont have DME, can I still execute a VFR practise approach? On GPS (RNAV) approaches, can I deviate from the published procedures with permission from the Tower or controlling agency if I am doing a VFR practise approach? I.E. Altitude deviation for a fix. If so, what is the reference? Thanks in advance. In VMC, there are VFR approaches, and practice IFR approaches. In IMC there are IFR approaches. Full stop. Required equipment for VFR approaches are one pair regulation eye-balls, an ASI, altimeter and compass. A radio is helpful. Brian W |
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On Oct 1, 7:07*pm, brian whatcott wrote:
In VMC, there are VFR approaches, and practice IFR approaches. In IMC there are IFR approaches. Full stop. Brian, I think it's ATC facility dependent for IFR approaches and full stops. I get touch and goes on IFR approaches on IFR clearances routinely my neck of the woods. Touch and goes also can be done on IFR XC round robins. Just file to a fix at the destination airport, pick up the approach clearance and fly back home after the touch and go. |
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On Oct 1, 9:11*pm, (Don Poitras) wrote:
wrote: On Oct 1, 7:07?pm, brian whatcott wrote: In VMC, there are VFR approaches, and practice IFR approaches. In IMC there are IFR approaches. Full stop. Brian, I think it's ATC facility dependent for IFR approaches and full stops. I get touch and goes on IFR approaches on IFR clearances routinely my neck of the woods. Touch and goes also can be done on IFR XC round robins. *Just file to a fix at the destination airport, pick up the approach clearance and fly back home after the touch and go. "Full stop" is British for "Period." -- Don Poitras Ahh, thanks! Never knew :-) |
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