ATC Handling of Low-Fuel American Flight

Jim Carter wrote:

If the aircrew "needed to get on the ground right away", why did they
overfly other suitable airports? That action alone could have suggested to
ATC that this wasn't that big an issue. Love Field has equipment to deal
with air carrier class aircraft and they flew right past it even after being
asked about landing there.

I don't know. It isn't relevant to what happened. During a declared
emergency the PIC gets what he or she needs. The questions come later.
That didn't happen in this case and that is all that matters.

Matt

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
t...
If the aircrew "needed to get on the ground right away", why did they
overfly other suitable airports? That action alone could have suggested to
ATC that this wasn't that big an issue. Love Field has equipment to deal
with air carrier class aircraft and they flew right past it even after
being asked about landing there.

Between Tulsa and DFW, which airports would those be?


--
Matt Barrow
Performance Homes, LLC
Colorado Springs, CO

I believe the closest would have been Love based on the point at which he
mentioned the fuel problem. This has already been addressed in this thread
so I suspect you already knew that Matt.

I'm not condoning what ATC did or how they responded, but like the UK pilot
that continued on single-engine across the pond I wonder why AA continued on
past a suitable airport once they knew they had a problem. That's all I'm
questioning.

--
Jim Carter
Rogers, Arkansas
"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
...
"Jim Carter" wrote in message
t...
If the aircrew "needed to get on the ground right away", why did they
overfly other suitable airports? That action alone could have suggested
to ATC that this wasn't that big an issue. Love Field has equipment to
deal with air carrier class aircraft and they flew right past it even
after being asked about landing there.

Between Tulsa and DFW, which airports would those be?


--
Matt Barrow
Performance Homes, LLC
Colorado Springs, CO

I'm not condoning what ATC did or how they responded, but like the UK pilot
that continued on single-engine across the pond I wonder why AA continued on
past a suitable airport once they knew they had a problem. That's all I'm
questioning.

In fact, it was a British Airways 747 that continued on three engines, not
one. Here's an interesting column about that the incident:

http://www.avweb.com/news/pelican/193882-1.html

You're right - my mistake.

--
Jim Carter
Rogers, Arkansas
"Barry" wrote in message
. ..
I'm not condoning what ATC did or how they responded, but like the UK
pilot
that continued on single-engine across the pond I wonder why AA continued
on
past a suitable airport once they knew they had a problem. That's all I'm
questioning.

In fact, it was a British Airways 747 that continued on three engines, not
one. Here's an interesting column about that the incident:

http://www.avweb.com/news/pelican/193882-1.html

Jim Carter wrote:
I believe the closest would have been Love based on the point at which he
mentioned the fuel problem. This has already been addressed in this thread
so I suspect you already knew that Matt.

Did you see the plot I posted in a similar thread? DAL and DFW 17C were
the same distance from his position at declaration.

Check the message I left pointing to the graphic, in which I give the
Part 121 perspective.

Just saw it Sam. Nice perspective and probably pretty accurate too. I am no
way advocating that ATC did right, I was just wondering if the actions of
the aircrew might seem inconsistent with their declarations. I'm not sure
that can be answered, but it really shouldn't matter either.


--
Jim Carter
Rogers, Arkansas
"Sam Spade" wrote in message
...
Jim Carter wrote:
I believe the closest would have been Love based on the point at which he
mentioned the fuel problem. This has already been addressed in this
thread so I suspect you already knew that Matt.

Did you see the plot I posted in a similar thread? DAL and DFW 17C were
the same distance from his position at declaration.

Check the message I left pointing to the graphic, in which I give the Part
121 perspective.

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
t...

I believe the closest would have been Love based on the point at which he
mentioned the fuel problem. This has already been addressed in this thread
so I suspect you already knew that Matt.


How does the distance to DFW compare to the distance to DAL from that point?



I'm not condoning what ATC did or how they responded, but like the UK
pilot that continued on single-engine across the pond I wonder why AA
continued on past a suitable airport once they knew they had a problem.
That's all I'm questioning.


He continued on with three engines, not one.

Sam Spade wrote:
http://www.kvue.com/sharedcontent/Vi...2817&catId=104


I listened to the tape all the way through.

FIRE THE CONTROLLER.

I'd have been yelling at him, at that point.