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"Richard Riley" wrote Jim - find another doctor. Been there, done that. I'll bet real money that a local chiropractor would help. Three plus months. Also, accupunture, pain management, injecions and all, (two years), othos, neuros, physical therapy,and a few more I didn't mention.. I have degenerative disks, and permenant nerve damage. My back hurts, and my leg and foot. My foot feels as it is severely bruised; like it has been beaten on the bottom with a hammer. Yet I go on, as there is no other choice. If not with the pain or the underlying condition, at least with the note. I'll get the note, when it is time. I'm not there yet. With pain meds, a nap will get me back for the rest of the day, for now. I'm not "one of you" (rapping of wood) but I'm on your side. I'm glad you're not. The message I always try to get out, is to take care of you back. You only get one, and they usually don't get better. I think pain is horribly undermedicated and underaccomodated in this country. Yep. Still, you are treated almost as a criminal (or addict), when you try to get what can make life almost bearable. I know that this thread is crossposted, but if anyone in Rec.Aviation.Homebuilt objects to overweight, pain racked people getting around airshows in a scooter, I would like to remind them that our own Tony Pucillo used one in his last year or two at Sun n Fun. (blue skies, Tony) Yep, I never met him, but wish I did. I hope EVERYONE will take an example, and try not to let a physical ailment stand in the way of what you love. I'll try to make that vow, myself. -- Jim in NC |
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Morgans wrote:
I know that this thread is crossposted, but if anyone in Rec.Aviation.Homebuilt objects to overweight, pain racked people getting around airshows in a scooter, I would like to remind them that our own Tony Pucillo used one in his last year or two at Sun n Fun. (blue skies, Tony) Yep, I never met him, but wish I did. I hope EVERYONE will take an example, and try not to let a physical ailment stand in the way of what you love. I'll try to make that vow, myself. I think I've seen pictures of Zoom on one at Sun'N'fun... |
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Not responding to any one post.........
There were times I wondered whether some of the scooter people were just lazy but I just had to remind myself that I wouldn't be qualified to judge the extent of their maladies anyway, and settle for being glad that I didn't need one. I can't honestly say that we personally had a close call with a scooter. But when the day comes that I can't walk mile after mile, I hope that I have the option to use one to see my last couple of Airventures. (And I hope that's 40 years from now.) Some of the four wheeled Gator/golf cart/whatever vehicles were another matter. Not that I qualify for special treatment, but my seven year old is hearing impaired - requires extra vigilance when mixing with traffic. Seems to me that seven years old = has the attention span of an Irish Setter, but maybe that's just my kids. And having those damn things zipping on and off of the roads at any and every point imaginable, while expecting the mere pedestrians to part like Moses was coming through, startled me a few times. I'm half afraid that one of us will get run over and half afraid that I'll punch somebody. I saw plenty of safe and courteous drivers but there were way too many fools. I can't help but wonder if a lot of the vendors wouldn't think twice about running down the pedestrians if every vendor cart was required to have a large logo identifying the company operating it. Maybe not, 'How's my driving? - call 1 800 xxx xxxx' hasn't exactly been a roaring success. As for the various comments about the dairy industry and the fast food industry, does anyone really think they are to blame for the menu choices? Honestly?? You don't think that the food service industry would step up if they could make a buck selling healthy food? Sorry, but I think they would replace every bacon cheeseburger in America with tofu salads or heroin milkshakes (if heroin was legal) in about 30 days if that's what people were spending their cash for. Their job is to produce goods and services at a profit and our job is to reward them for doing it to our liking. We as a country could fix this if we wanted to. This is my third year in a row at Osh and the second time I've had a department store tent fail me. Never again. My 'C' brand tent with its 'guarantee' to keep me dry is going to a yard sale and I don't care if it sells for 75 cents. It isn't worth the closet space it would otherwise take up. I am very interested in any brands of tent that anyone could recommend. Because if I do this again I intend to stay dry somehow. I did notice that some of the manufacturers make rain flys that will keep water out as long as the tent is standing. I gotta get me one of those! All in all that was a fantastic show and it's amazing that they can put something like that together with volunteer labor. Thanks to each and every one of you sunburned people who made it happen. Tom McQuinn |
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You want to see really sad pain?
Watch "The Boy Whos Skin Fell Off". Now there is a man who has lived with pain all his life. He made this documentary during the last 8 months of his life to show people what its like to live with his condition. I have some pretty serious back problems, but I just deal with it, and feel lucky I'm not him. Dave "Morgans" wrote in message ... "PPT33R" wrote The one thing that really ****ed me off this year (and I will proceed to rant about) was the invasion of the 'obese scooter people'. I don't ever remember getting run down by OSP in the past at OSH. There is now a large 'scooter rental' right inside the gates. Your rant is off base. First, the rental has has been there the 6 years I have been. Second, what do you have against overweight people? Granted, some people actually NEED these things to get around, but I didn't see any, You didn't look hard enough. and I doubt they would hold an airman's certificate. The show is not just for certificated people. All who enjoy aviation are invited. They were ALL George Costanza wannabes (recall the Seinfeld episode with the 'great scooter chase'), and I don't think ANY were paid EAA Members. Again you are wrong. I myself know of an 80 plus year old EAA'er that injured himself WATER SKIING, and he didn't appear to be that old, or be in need of a scooter. So, EAA won't let me ride my bicycle from the far end of the North 40 to the Forum Pavillions, Nope. Lord of Lord, can you imagine what would happen if just one bike from each plane on the north 40 was let loose on the grounds? -shudder- but OSP can run people down in the exhibit hangars and go wherever the hell they want? If you have a problem with the actions of "a" scooter rider, then "educate" that one person, and stop blaming the whole subset of scooter riders. You can ride your bike or scooter to the gate where the North 40 joins the grounds, and walk from there, just like "everyone else" on foot. It makes NO sense to me, See above. I am more afraid of the 300lb'er not looking where they are driving their scooter. Come now, are you a man or a mouse? I made a comment to EAA about this, it really bothered me. If you have a note from your doctor, OK, but just being lazy ****es me off. I one year soon, will be unable to see what I want to see, without a scooter (bad back; two surgeries with no improvement), but do not qualify for a doctor's note. There is a difference to be made about the ability to get around, and the ability to get all of the way around OSH. If the invasion of the OSP continues, it will eventually be enough to dissuade me from attending in the future... Far be it from me to dissuade anyone from attending OSH, but if you think you are so above everyone else that is not allowed to ride bikes, and are so afraid of a few scooters, ... don't let the screen door hit you on the way out. -- Jim in NC |
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It's really strange that most people I talk to that easily could get
handicapped parking and such really want no part of it, myself included. I do see a ton of obese people that use them and the little electric carts in WalMart and you just have to wonder if they would walk alittle more maybe they would not be in that situation. Most people, not all ,mind you are obese because they do not know when to put the fork down and I do not see how that is considered a handicap. I won't get a handicap parking sticker because I figure there is someone out there that may need that closer spot more than I do, if I hobble along with a cane from time to time so be it. No big deal, and no pain no gain! I don't have anything against overweight people but it gets my goat to see one get a parking spot at the front of a store when a family is trying to get their child out of a van with MS or something and trying to unload a wheelchair and the fat person "thinks" they are handicapped and are required to park close because of laziness. Patrick student SPL aircraft structural mech "Dave" wrote in message ... You want to see really sad pain? Watch "The Boy Whos Skin Fell Off". Now there is a man who has lived with pain all his life. He made this documentary during the last 8 months of his life to show people what its like to live with his condition. I have some pretty serious back problems, but I just deal with it, and feel lucky I'm not him. Dave "Morgans" wrote in message ... "PPT33R" wrote The one thing that really ****ed me off this year (and I will proceed to rant about) was the invasion of the 'obese scooter people'. I don't ever remember getting run down by OSP in the past at OSH. There is now a large 'scooter rental' right inside the gates. Your rant is off base. First, the rental has has been there the 6 years I have been. Second, what do you have against overweight people? Granted, some people actually NEED these things to get around, but I didn't see any, You didn't look hard enough. and I doubt they would hold an airman's certificate. The show is not just for certificated people. All who enjoy aviation are invited. They were ALL George Costanza wannabes (recall the Seinfeld episode with the 'great scooter chase'), and I don't think ANY were paid EAA Members. Again you are wrong. I myself know of an 80 plus year old EAA'er that injured himself WATER SKIING, and he didn't appear to be that old, or be in need of a scooter. So, EAA won't let me ride my bicycle from the far end of the North 40 to the Forum Pavillions, Nope. Lord of Lord, can you imagine what would happen if just one bike from each plane on the north 40 was let loose on the grounds? -shudder- but OSP can run people down in the exhibit hangars and go wherever the hell they want? If you have a problem with the actions of "a" scooter rider, then "educate" that one person, and stop blaming the whole subset of scooter riders. You can ride your bike or scooter to the gate where the North 40 joins the grounds, and walk from there, just like "everyone else" on foot. It makes NO sense to me, See above. I am more afraid of the 300lb'er not looking where they are driving their scooter. Come now, are you a man or a mouse? I made a comment to EAA about this, it really bothered me. If you have a note from your doctor, OK, but just being lazy ****es me off. I one year soon, will be unable to see what I want to see, without a scooter (bad back; two surgeries with no improvement), but do not qualify for a doctor's note. There is a difference to be made about the ability to get around, and the ability to get all of the way around OSH. If the invasion of the OSP continues, it will eventually be enough to dissuade me from attending in the future... Far be it from me to dissuade anyone from attending OSH, but if you think you are so above everyone else that is not allowed to ride bikes, and are so afraid of a few scooters, ... don't let the screen door hit you on the way out. -- Jim in NC |
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Tom McQuinn wrote:
This is my third year in a row at Osh and the second time I've had a department store tent fail me. Never again. My 'C' brand tent with its 'guarantee' to keep me dry is going to a yard sale and I don't care if it sells for 75 cents. It isn't worth the closet space it would otherwise take up. I am very interested in any brands of tent that anyone could recommend. Because if I do this again I intend to stay dry somehow. I did notice that some of the manufacturers make rain flys that will keep water out as long as the tent is standing. I gotta get me one of those! Did you use seam-sealer on the department store tent before you used it? I've had a couple of bad experiences with thunderstorms camping at Oshkosh, and finally got this tent for this year: http://www.arequip.com/Products/Blac...Lighthouse.htm Caution: Black Diamond calls this a 2-person tent, but I wouldn't recommend it for more than one person, even if the 2 people are very good friends. I went to sleep with the lightning flashing and thunder crashing on Monday night. There were (maybe) 10 drops of water inside the tent. I had spent half a day with the tube of seam-sealer before leaving home, time well spent. You can see it set up on the North 40 he http://makeashorterlink.com/?B3B15378B Dave |
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Are you kidding? I'll bet upwards of $5mil was charged at Oshkosh last
week. {;-) Jim Bring it on! There is parking, scooters are allowed, and charging will be tricky, but I'm sure, doable. -- Jim in NC |
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I saw it. He was a pretty remarkable guy. Very courageous. Very humbleing
to watch. Jim |
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Rule number one with any tent, cheap or quality, is to go over it with
seam sealer before actual use! John |
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After seeing others experience with tents at AirVenture '05, I am going
to write an article to post prior to AirVenture '06 about what to look for in a tent that will keep you dry and stay where you place it. However, since you are asking now, here are a few quick suggestions so you may seek and purchase a tent at a discount this Fall when stores are discounting this Summer's merchandise. o Three season tent with full rain fly. Single wall tents are lighter, but do not breath because they are coated to seal out the water. As I have told others, in 25 years the only weather I have not yet seen at OSH is snow. o Look for a tent that has a full rain fly, not those little umbrella sun shade things that some tents have. You want a rain fly that goes almost all the way to the ground, completely covering the inner tent. You want a fly that is factory seam sealed. o Bathtub floor. The waterproof tent bottom that comes up the sides of the tent six to eight inches. o Ground cloth. I use TYVEK, the vapor barrior material that is wrapped around new house construction. Find a scrap in the dumpster or ask the construction crew to save you a piece. (Check with a local Boy Scout troop to see if they have a roll that they will sell you a piece from.) Cut it to the shape of your tent's footprint so it is two-inches from the edge all around. If it is the same dimension or larger than your tent's footprint, water draining off the fly can be caught on top of the ground cloth and flow under your tent. Although the bathtub is waterproof, water will still seep through microscopic holes and make the inside of your tent wet. How many people will be sleeping in the tent? Do you need/want a stand-up size or a crawl-into size? Metal poles vice fiberglass poles? I prefer metal, but the most important feature of the tent will be multiple lash points for guying. If you have sufficient guys/tie-down points, it will withstand very strong wind. Domes/A-frame/rectangular shape. Think airflow. How will the surface of the tent deflect the wind and rain? Domes generally allow the greatest interior volume and best wind/rain shedding. Visit a backpacking store or good sporting goods store and try out the different models. Read BACKPACKER magazine. Google "backpacking+gear reviews" for websites and read what users have to say. Onlines websites: www.campmor.com www.rei.com www.northernmountain.com www.sierratradingpost.com (these are the ones I commonly check for sales) there are many others, including the manufacturers websites. Remember, this is a brief overview, there is lots to discuss. |
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