OSH '05 Comments

Another great OSH. The number and quality of the exhibits seems to
improve each year. I especially like the Miller Welding trailer. My
girlfriend even got to play with the plasma cutter, and she liked it
(maybe helping me justify a future purchase ;-)...

We met the MotoArt guys (from the now discontinued TV show "Wing
Nuts".) They said there is a 'lost episode' they are trying to air that
will answer many questions regarding Tim before he died.

Wicks had a much smaller display this year with no parts, just pilot
supplies. They should probably move to the Fly Market and provide more
selection next year.

I am not sure about the new scheduling, starting on a Monday. Crowds
seemed VERY light on Monday (which was good for us, but not sure for
the vendors.) It will be interesting to see how this weekend works out
for them. The North 40 was filled by Sunday night, but emptied out
considerably by Wednesday afternoon (when we left.)

The comaraderie of campers in the North 40 was as good as ever. We
really enjoyed talking with all our camping neighbors. And as full as
the North 40 was, we didn't have problems getting in and out of the
showers! The storm night was quite exciting, but largely uneventful.
One lesson for our fellow campers - don't expect a cheap Wal-Mart tent
to keep you dry in a major OSH T-Storm (we had a Mountain Hardware tent
that kept everything out, and didn't collapse or break a pole!)

The one thing that really ****ed me off this year (and I will proceed
to rant about) was the invasion of the 'obese scooter people'. I don't
ever remember getting run down by OSP in the past at OSH. There is now
a large 'scooter rental' right inside the gates. Granted, some people
actually NEED these things to get around, but I didn't see any, and I
doubt they would hold an airman's certificate. They were ALL George
Costanza wannabes (recall the Seinfeld episode with the 'great scooter
chase'), and I don't think ANY were paid EAA Members. So, EAA won't let
me ride my bicycle from the far end of the North 40 to the Forum
Pavillions, but OSP can run people down in the exhibit hangars and go
wherever the hell they want? It makes NO sense to me, I am more afraid
of the 300lb'er not looking where they are driving their scooter. I
made a comment to EAA about this, it really bothered me. If you have a
note from your doctor, OK, but just being lazy ****es me off. If the
invasion of the OSP continues, it will eventually be enough to dissuade
me from attending in the future...

"PPT33R" wrote in message
oups.com...
The one thing that really ****ed me off this year (and I will proceed
to rant about) was the invasion of the 'obese scooter people'. I don't
ever remember getting run down by OSP in the past at OSH. There is now
a large 'scooter rental' right inside the gates. Granted, some people
actually NEED these things to get around, but I didn't see any, and I
doubt they would hold an airman's certificate. They were ALL George
Costanza wannabes (recall the Seinfeld episode with the 'great scooter
chase'), and I don't think ANY were paid EAA Members. So, EAA won't let
me ride my bicycle from the far end of the North 40 to the Forum
Pavillions, but OSP can run people down in the exhibit hangars and go
wherever the hell they want? It makes NO sense to me, I am more afraid
of the 300lb'er not looking where they are driving their scooter. I
made a comment to EAA about this, it really bothered me. If you have a
note from your doctor, OK, but just being lazy ****es me off. If the
invasion of the OSP continues, it will eventually be enough to dissuade
me from attending in the future...


They should be more highly regulated that DC airspace. The scooter store has
obviously hired a top dog salesman in my area. From nowhere there are now at
least 40 in this town of 25K. They drive on the roads. They were riding the
little Satan scooters on the main 5 lane avenue until the police put a stop
to it but they still cross it during rush hour.

As far as OSH I think the answer would be a retractable blade in your shoe.
Just pop it out and kick the tire.

On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:49:09 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote:

They should be more highly regulated that DC airspace. The scooter store has
obviously hired a top dog salesman in my area. From nowhere there are now at
least 40 in this town of 25K. They drive on the roads. They were riding the
little Satan scooters on the main 5 lane avenue until the police put a stop
to it but they still cross it during rush hour.

Those *******s. How dare they try to cross the street, especially in
front of YOU! What the **HELL** could they be thinking!?!?

As far as OSH I think the answer would be a retractable blade in your shoe.
Just pop it out and kick the tire.

Hell no, shoot'em. You're packin, right? Just blow them suckers away
with your hard hitting .45 automatic and hollow point rounds. Then
you'll never have to worry about seeing them again... Everyone will
thank you, right?

Corky (just kidding officer) Scott

Corkster....

They aren't just crossing the street they are driving the damn things down
major streets. Not on the side of the rode but right down the center of the
lane. As I said they were doing this on the very busy 5 lane but the PD made
them stop. They are a danger to themselves and others. Many of them have had
their DL taken away and that's the reason they have the things and YOUR tax
dollars are paying for them.

No don't shoot them you'll get caught. My plan will work in a crowd chance
of getting caught is low.


"Corky Scott" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:49:09 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote:

They should be more highly regulated that DC airspace. The scooter store
has
obviously hired a top dog salesman in my area. From nowhere there are now
at
least 40 in this town of 25K. They drive on the roads. They were riding
the
little Satan scooters on the main 5 lane avenue until the police put a
stop
to it but they still cross it during rush hour.

Those *******s. How dare they try to cross the street, especially in
front of YOU! What the **HELL** could they be thinking!?!?

As far as OSH I think the answer would be a retractable blade in your
shoe.
Just pop it out and kick the tire.

Hell no, shoot'em. You're packin, right? Just blow them suckers away
with your hard hitting .45 automatic and hollow point rounds. Then
you'll never have to worry about seeing them again... Everyone will
thank you, right?

Corky (just kidding officer) Scott

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:


They should be more highly regulated that DC airspace. The scooter store has
obviously hired a top dog salesman in my area. From nowhere there are now at
least 40 in this town of 25K. They drive on the roads. They were riding the
little Satan scooters on the main 5 lane avenue until the police put a stop
to it but they still cross it during rush hour.

As far as OSH I think the answer would be a retractable blade in your shoe.
Just pop it out and kick the tire.


It amazes me how easy it is to "qualify" for one. I believe there are
many people that need them and most of those you see do, but traffic
laws still apply and should be enforced. I have seen places where I
would swear they gather like a biker gang an head on down the road.

I qualify for a scooter. I won't get one simply because I don't
really need one. If I were to go to OSH or some other big event I'd take
a manual wheel chair. Of course I'd add a cupholder, gotta have that.

If I ever need a scooter I'll make my own: roll bar, 4 wheel drive,
Chevy small block engine......

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

"Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired" wrote in message
news:dAvGe.63397$FP2.60783@lakeread03...
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:


They should be more highly regulated that DC airspace. The scooter store
has obviously hired a top dog salesman in my area. From nowhere there are
now at least 40 in this town of 25K. They drive on the roads. They were
riding the little Satan scooters on the main 5 lane avenue until the
police put a stop to it but they still cross it during rush hour.

As far as OSH I think the answer would be a retractable blade in your
shoe. Just pop it out and kick the tire.
It amazes me how easy it is to "qualify" for one. I believe there are
many people that need them and most of those you see do, but traffic laws
still apply and should be enforced. I have seen places where I would swear
they gather like a biker gang an head on down the road.

I qualify for a scooter. I won't get one simply because I don't really
need one. If I were to go to OSH or some other big event I'd take a manual
wheel chair. Of course I'd add a cupholder, gotta have that.

If I ever need a scooter I'll make my own: roll bar, 4 wheel drive,
Chevy small block engine......

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

There has got to be some serious money being made on the things. They aren't
paying for all those commercials they are running with money that came from
the people around here.

Of course, I think if a person really needs one they should be able to get
one. But the folks that I keep almost running into made it to the liquor
store just fine before they got them.

PPT33R wrote:

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The one thing that really ****ed me off this year (and I will proceed
to rant about) was the invasion of the 'obese scooter people'. I don't
ever remember getting run down by OSP in the past at OSH. There is now
a large 'scooter rental' right inside the gates. Granted, some people
actually NEED these things to get around, but I didn't see any, and I
doubt they would hold an airman's certificate. They were ALL George
Costanza wannabes (recall the Seinfeld episode with the 'great scooter
chase'), and I don't think ANY were paid EAA Members. So, EAA won't let
me ride my bicycle from the far end of the North 40 to the Forum
Pavillions, but OSP can run people down in the exhibit hangars and go
wherever the hell they want? It makes NO sense to me, I am more afraid
of the 300lb'er not looking where they are driving their scooter. I
made a comment to EAA about this, it really bothered me. If you have a
note from your doctor, OK, but just being lazy ****es me off. If the
invasion of the OSP continues, it will eventually be enough to dissuade
me from attending in the future...

You can't always tell by looking at someone whether they are
disabled. Granted not everyone on scooters is disabled. If you saw me
you'd think I was healthy enough to stroll OSH but you'd be wrong.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired, 100% service related disabled and would do
it again.

PPT33R wrote:

The one thing that really ****ed me off this year (and I will proceed
to rant about) was the invasion of the 'obese scooter people'. I don't
ever remember getting run down by OSP in the past at OSH. There is now
a large 'scooter rental' right inside the gates. Granted, some people
actually NEED these things to get around, but I didn't see any, and I
doubt they would hold an airman's certificate. They were ALL George
Costanza wannabes (recall the Seinfeld episode with the 'great scooter
chase'), and I don't think ANY were paid EAA Members. So, EAA won't let
me ride my bicycle from the far end of the North 40 to the Forum
Pavillions, but OSP can run people down in the exhibit hangars and go
wherever the hell they want? It makes NO sense to me, I am more afraid
of the 300lb'er not looking where they are driving their scooter. I
made a comment to EAA about this, it really bothered me. If you have a
note from your doctor, OK, but just being lazy ****es me off. If the
invasion of the OSP continues, it will eventually be enough to dissuade
me from attending in the future...


The trouble is that anyone can get a note from their doctor for
anything. Some of the people I know who have gotten handicap tags for
their cars and SUVs really aren't handicapped, but if you complain to
your doctor about any ailment at all you can get approval for a handicap
tag.


Matt

In a previous article, Matt Whiting said:
The trouble is that anyone can get a note from their doctor for
anything. Some of the people I know who have gotten handicap tags for
their cars and SUVs really aren't handicapped, but if you complain to
your doctor about any ailment at all you can get approval for a handicap
tag.

I have chronic debilitating knee pain. It ended my cross country ski and
orienteering racing 25 years ago, and has only gotten worse. I had to
give up mountain biking and backpacking and even canoeing. Every single
day of my life, I'm in pain. Lots and lots of pain. Pain so great that I
didn't even realize that my appendix had burst for three days after it
happened, and I lost a large chunk of my stomach and large intestine to
gangrene. Every day where I have to walk more than a few hundred metres
means a few days where I have to gobble down handfuls of naproxen and
tylenol and sit with my legs up and ice them. Every day I walked around
Oshkosh a couple of years ago was agony, but I put up with it because it
was worth it.

And yet if you looked at me, you'd never guess it in a million years.
Because I take the pain. Because the pain isn't any less if I limp or
carry a cane, so I don't. Because I can continue to do what I want to do
if I'm willing to pay the price in pain afterwards, but I'd still prefer
to avoid the pain where I can. Because it isn't a visible disability, but
it's a disability none the less.

Think about people like me next time you dismiss somebody as "really
aren't handicapped" just because you can't see anything wrong with them.

--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
I got told by a friend's ex-girlfriend that she could tell I was
a Linux geek from the way I *walked*.
-- Skud

Paul Tomblin wrote:

In a previous article, Matt Whiting said:

The trouble is that anyone can get a note from their doctor for
anything. Some of the people I know who have gotten handicap tags for
their cars and SUVs really aren't handicapped, but if you complain to
your doctor about any ailment at all you can get approval for a handicap
tag.


I have chronic debilitating knee pain. It ended my cross country ski and
orienteering racing 25 years ago, and has only gotten worse. I had to
give up mountain biking and backpacking and even canoeing. Every single
day of my life, I'm in pain. Lots and lots of pain. Pain so great that I
didn't even realize that my appendix had burst for three days after it
happened, and I lost a large chunk of my stomach and large intestine to
gangrene. Every day where I have to walk more than a few hundred metres
means a few days where I have to gobble down handfuls of naproxen and
tylenol and sit with my legs up and ice them. Every day I walked around
Oshkosh a couple of years ago was agony, but I put up with it because it
was worth it.

And yet if you looked at me, you'd never guess it in a million years.
Because I take the pain. Because the pain isn't any less if I limp or
carry a cane, so I don't. Because I can continue to do what I want to do
if I'm willing to pay the price in pain afterwards, but I'd still prefer
to avoid the pain where I can. Because it isn't a visible disability, but
it's a disability none the less.

Think about people like me next time you dismiss somebody as "really
aren't handicapped" just because you can't see anything wrong with them.

Read it again, for comprehension this time. I didn't say people I've
"seen", I said people I "know." There is a big difference. These are
people that I see doing lots of activities that are much more strenous
than walking across the parking lot to Wal-Mart.

I have degenerative disk disease. You can't always tell it from
watching me walk, but some days you can. I could easily get a handicap
permit, and actually have had doctors suggest I get one. I also have a
high pain threshold and wouldn't think of getting a handicap permit
unless it gets a LOT worse. And you'd then be able to tell from looking
at me that I needed the permit.


Matt