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Old March 28th 16, 03:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
George Haeh
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A vigorous "Can Not
Release" signal has a
good probability of
breaking the weak link.

If you remember not to
release after breaking
the weak link, you can
use the Tost rings again.

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Old March 28th 16, 04:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
JS
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On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 8:00:08 PM UTC-7, George Haeh wrote:
A vigorous "Can Not
Release" signal has a
good probability of
breaking the weak link.

If you remember not to
release after breaking
the weak link, you can
use the Tost rings again.


But landing on tow is fun.
Jim
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Old March 28th 16, 05:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Not this again! Yer gonna die!

Seriously, after signals are exhanged, and within a very conservative glide of the field (like overhead) open the brakes, fly normal high tow position and wheel land. Use brakes sparingly to only keep the rope taught and not run over it. The odds of a tug being able to stop more rapidly than a glider are small, short of the tug ground looping or other wreckery.

L.O.T. used to be a pre-solo confidence building maneuver employed liberally at Skylark North, CA. An instructor demo touch-and-go followed by a student touch-and-go and then a full stop by the student. Very rare that the student needed anything other than some verbal coaching.

Oh, and what JS said, much fun, and the student confidence index soared!

Double release failure = statistical nonevent. Kind of like glider-glider midairs in the USA. Maybe we need auto-LOT technology coupled to our FLARM's in case we have a potential traffic conflict while LOT-ing?


But yer gonna die..... but probably not doing LOT's or in a glider-glider midair.

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Old March 28th 16, 12:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Jonathan St. Cloud
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When I did double release failure practice, we used the low tow position, fear on the high two was we would over run/fly the tow plane.

On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 9:21:15 PM UTC-7, wrote:
Not this again! Yer gonna die!

Seriously, after signals are exhanged, and within a very conservative glide of the field (like overhead) open the brakes, fly normal high tow position and wheel land. Use brakes sparingly to only keep the rope taught and not run over it. The odds of a tug being able to stop more rapidly than a glider are small, short of the tug ground looping or other wreckery.


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Old March 29th 16, 04:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bill T
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The FAA Glider Pilots Handbook recommends low tow position.
BillT
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Old March 28th 16, 01:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Piet Barber
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L.O.T. used to be a pre-solo confidence building maneuver employed liberally at Skylark North, CA. An instructor demo touch-and-go followed by a student touch-and-go and then a full stop by the student. Very rare that the student needed anything other than some verbal coaching.


Hmmm. Could 3 touch-and-go-on-tows be good enough for a 61.56 (nee biennial) flight review?
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Old March 29th 16, 01:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
AS
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Hmmm. Could 3 touch-and-go-on-tows be good enough for a 61.56 (nee biennial) flight review?

Used that method to get current again for the 90 day rule. I couldn't find any reference saying that these had to be full-stop landings.
Just coordinate it well with the tow pilot and let him know, that he cannot pull the power as he normally would do after the glider releases, if you are flying anything more slippery than a 2-33 or the tow plane becomes really big outside your canopy really fast!

Uli
 




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