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FAA suspends Bruno Vassel's Pilot Certificate
In the video he asked "Why not?"
I guess he's got his answer. |
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FAA suspends Bruno Vassel's Pilot Certificate
On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 9:46:20 PM UTC-4, son_of_flubber wrote:
I searched and did not find that this topic was already posted on RAS. Here's the video that documents the infraction https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ure=emb_lo go Here's Bruno's recent comment: 2 weeks ago Update 10 months later: I uploaded this video and 4 days later had over 200k views. The video got reported and the FAA had serious concerns with this performance/flight. Lesson learned: Don't fly any kind of performance for any group or crowd (even if asked by the airshow management and cleared through the airboss) if you are NOT an approved airshow performer (have something called a SAC card)!!! The FAA will surely come after you with violations. The end result for me: $$ thousands spent on legal fees and I will soon be taking a 7 month break from flying. I was told I was very luck to not lose my license over this. Yikes! Why am I sharing all this? I only had good intentions of showing what a glider is capable of doing, but I am not a trained airshow performer and I didn't know the rules for airshow performances. If in doubt - don't do it! I hope this will help other pilots to not have to go through what I have over the last 10 months. Cheers and stay safe! Bruno - B4 Bruno, that is a bummer, Sorry to hear about this. Always enjoy your videos. Hope to see you back in the air ASAP. Rich Smith ZD |
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FAA suspends Bruno Vassel's Pilot Certificate
Dear Buno, I have followed this thread. I am sorry for your timeout. I really enjoy your videos and recommend your work to both pilots and non-pilots. Might I interest you in the benefits of two place flying? A guy like you could really use an ASH-30mi or similar. My most fun flights have been in a nimbus 3D or nimbus 4D, and you could probably find a partner that hasn’t been posting his sins on YouTube for years. All the best, can hardly wait for new soaring videos from you
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FAA suspends Bruno Vassel's Pilot Certificate
On Sunday, June 28, 2020 at 6:05:27 PM UTC-7, Roy B. wrote:
So motoring down a ridge is infraction if hikers are there ????? That is correct. read FAR 91.119 (c): "Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an aircraft below the following altitudes: (c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure. Like I said, everyone who has ever been down a ridge with a "structure" or a "person" on it has violated this section. Most don't get caught . . . Some do. ROY I believe that for Gliders, down a ridge with structure or people is legal if it is your only legitimate source of lift, because according to FAR 91.3 B: In an in-flight emergency requiring immediate action, the pilot in command may deviate from any rule of this part to the extent required to meet that emergency. But per part C, you may have to defend it. Dated info now, but 30ish years ago at Torrey Pines a friend did a wingover directly in front of the windows of the Cal Fisheries building (which is built on the edge of the cliff providing lift). I can't imagine a better seat for an airshow, and yes, it generated a visit from the FAA. The pilot stated that the wingover was necessary to keep the glider within the narrow band of lift offered by the steep ridge and that it was the only way to maintain enough altitude to affect a safe landing. No enforcement action followed. And as others have said, Bruno, thanks for all the great videos, and for bringing this to everyone's attention. Glad your back up in the air! -Greg |
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Bruno, looks like you just started the 7-month hiatus from single seat flying on the 4th?. So, between July and next February if you're in Texas I'm sure we can find a ship you can use to help train some budding XC pilots.
Dee |
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FAA suspends Bruno Vassel's Pilot Certificate
On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 9:30:07 PM UTC+1, Jonathon May wrote:
My sympathy is with is with Bruno but!!! In England 3 or so years back an occasional display pilot got it wrong at an air show and put his vintage jet onto the highwayman ,many dead but not him.The aftermath is still going on. It's not just the licence the whole flight has to be thought out ,written out and agreed with every one. If that was done the organises would have had to ask for all the paperwork to show their "duty of care",it's not just Bruno's fault. At a UK comp you need your comp licence ,glider inspection certs ,insurance and medical cert to compete.Because the organisers can't afford any jack the lad thats done a bit turning up and putting everyone else's life at risk. And they do "forget their medical has lapsed or they forgot to pay the insurance" .Thats why we check At 17:11 27 June 2020, Scott Williams wrote: On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 12:25:20 AM UTC-5, 2G wrote: On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 9:46:49 PM UTC-7, Charles Longley wrote: Wow bummer! Bruno is a super nice guy. I message him occasionally on FB= for advice. =20 Air shows are highly regulated events. I know - I have been involved in s= everal as a volunteer. The FAA oversees each of these events, as is their d= uty as codified by law. All performers are expected to know the regulations= , as in "ignorance of the law is no excuse." Here is an excerpt of these re= gulations (https://fsims.faa.gov/WDocs/8900.1/V...%20Admin/Chapt er%20= 06/03_006_001.htm): =20 1) Aerobatic Maneuvering. Requires a Statement of Aerobatic Competency= (SAC) with an aerobatic maneuvering endorsement for civilian pilots (see s= ubparagraph 3-146B). a) In a solo flight, aerobatic maneuvering is when the pitch attitude = of the aircraft is greater than 60 degrees above or below the horizon and/o= r the angle of bank is greater than 75 degrees in reference to the horizon. b) In a formation flight, aerobatic maneuvering is when the pitch atti= tude of an aircraft is greater than 60 degrees above or below the horizon a= nd/or the bank angle is greater than 75 degrees to the horizon. 2) Dynamic Maneuvering. Requires a SAC with a dynamic maneuvering endo= rsement for civilian pilots (see subparagraph 3-146B). a) In a solo flight, dynamic maneuvering includes abrupt maneuvering, = crossing maneuvers, and opposing maneuvers. The pitch and bank limitations = are when the pitch attitude of the aircraft is less than or equal to 60 deg= rees above or below the horizon and/or the bank angle is less than or equal= to 90 degrees in reference to the horizon. b) In a formation flight, dynamic maneuvering includes formation separ= ation, formation configuration/position changes, rejoins, crossing maneuver= s, and opposing maneuvers. The pitch and bank limitations are when the pitc= h attitude of the aircraft is less than or equal to 60 degrees above or bel= ow the horizon and/or the bank angle is less than or equal to 75 degrees in= reference to the horizon. =20 All of this has NOTHING to do with Boeing and aircraft certification. =20 Tom turd in the punch bowl n. A person who spoils a pleasant social situation. This metaphor is powered by a particularly vivid contrast: the inviting sen= sory appeal of a festive beverage juxtaposed with the revolting suggestion = of feculent contagion. Therefore, labeling someone a turd in the punch bowl= is most appropriate when the individual's deleterious influence goes beyon= d mere faux pas or nuisance behaviors, and rises to the level of deliberate= offense for its own sake. Consider that the literal act of depositing or e= xcreting fecal matter into a communal food-service container would be sabot= age. The punch bowl and the feces connote certain additional nuances. The former= is a symbol of public community, as such dispensers are frequently encount= ered at parties where they become a focal point for interaction. Freud famo= usly identified feces with aggression and the possessive instinct. Thus a t= urd in the punch bowl suggests rage toward, and / or the urge to conquer, a= community or society as a whole. Defecating into a punch bowl is a very pu= blic act, in contrast with poisoning the well or laying an upper decker, wh= ich are generally surreptitious. In particular then, to be a turd in the pu= nch bowl is to be a willful and attention-seeking obstructor to the success= of a social community. There is so much still to come to light, such as an altimeter being fitted that was bought on Ebay It certainly is not over It is the regulations that do keep us all safe |
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FAA suspends Bruno Vassel's Pilot Certificate
On Monday, July 6, 2020 at 9:00:04 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 9:30:07 PM UTC+1, Jonathon May wrote: My sympathy is with is with Bruno but!!! In England 3 or so years back an occasional display pilot got it wrong at an air show and put his vintage jet onto the highwayman ,many dead but not him.The aftermath is still going on. It's not just the licence the whole flight has to be thought out ,written out and agreed with every one. If that was done the organises would have had to ask for all the paperwork to show their "duty of care",it's not just Bruno's fault. At a UK comp you need your comp licence ,glider inspection certs ,insurance and medical cert to compete.Because the organisers can't afford any jack the lad thats done a bit turning up and putting everyone else's life at risk. And they do "forget their medical has lapsed or they forgot to pay the insurance" .Thats why we check At 17:11 27 June 2020, Scott Williams wrote: On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 12:25:20 AM UTC-5, 2G wrote: On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 9:46:49 PM UTC-7, Charles Longley wrote: Wow bummer! Bruno is a super nice guy. I message him occasionally on FB= for advice. =20 Air shows are highly regulated events. I know - I have been involved in s= everal as a volunteer. The FAA oversees each of these events, as is their d= uty as codified by law. All performers are expected to know the regulations= , as in "ignorance of the law is no excuse." Here is an excerpt of these re= gulations (https://fsims.faa.gov/WDocs/8900.1/V...%20Admin/Chapt er%20= 06/03_006_001.htm): =20 1) Aerobatic Maneuvering. Requires a Statement of Aerobatic Competency= (SAC) with an aerobatic maneuvering endorsement for civilian pilots (see s= ubparagraph 3-146B). a) In a solo flight, aerobatic maneuvering is when the pitch attitude = of the aircraft is greater than 60 degrees above or below the horizon and/o= r the angle of bank is greater than 75 degrees in reference to the horizon. b) In a formation flight, aerobatic maneuvering is when the pitch atti= tude of an aircraft is greater than 60 degrees above or below the horizon a= nd/or the bank angle is greater than 75 degrees to the horizon. 2) Dynamic Maneuvering. Requires a SAC with a dynamic maneuvering endo= rsement for civilian pilots (see subparagraph 3-146B). a) In a solo flight, dynamic maneuvering includes abrupt maneuvering, = crossing maneuvers, and opposing maneuvers. The pitch and bank limitations = are when the pitch attitude of the aircraft is less than or equal to 60 deg= rees above or below the horizon and/or the bank angle is less than or equal= to 90 degrees in reference to the horizon. b) In a formation flight, dynamic maneuvering includes formation separ= ation, formation configuration/position changes, rejoins, crossing maneuver= s, and opposing maneuvers. The pitch and bank limitations are when the pitc= h attitude of the aircraft is less than or equal to 60 degrees above or bel= ow the horizon and/or the bank angle is less than or equal to 75 degrees in= reference to the horizon. =20 All of this has NOTHING to do with Boeing and aircraft certification. =20 Tom turd in the punch bowl n. A person who spoils a pleasant social situation. This metaphor is powered by a particularly vivid contrast: the inviting sen= sory appeal of a festive beverage juxtaposed with the revolting suggestion = of feculent contagion. Therefore, labeling someone a turd in the punch bowl= is most appropriate when the individual's deleterious influence goes beyon= d mere faux pas or nuisance behaviors, and rises to the level of deliberate= offense for its own sake. Consider that the literal act of depositing or e= xcreting fecal matter into a communal food-service container would be sabot= age. The punch bowl and the feces connote certain additional nuances. The former= is a symbol of public community, as such dispensers are frequently encount= ered at parties where they become a focal point for interaction. Freud famo= usly identified feces with aggression and the possessive instinct. Thus a t= urd in the punch bowl suggests rage toward, and / or the urge to conquer, a= community or society as a whole. Defecating into a punch bowl is a very pu= blic act, in contrast with poisoning the well or laying an upper decker, wh= ich are generally surreptitious. In particular then, to be a turd in the pu= nch bowl is to be a willful and attention-seeking obstructor to the success= of a social community. There is so much still to come to light, such as an altimeter being fitted that was bought on Ebay It certainly is not over It is the regulations that do keep us all safe Care to elaborate? If it is illegal to install an altimeter purchased from ebay, I'm rightly or wrongly assuming that is what you are suggesting, please point to the regulation that you are referring to. After all, as you say, it is the regulations that do keep us all safe. |
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The Glider Club I belong to is operating a 1956 Cessna 182 we bought off E-Bay.
We hit a buy it now, best deal ever. Saved our club from dissolving and we're very happy with it. 182s make great towplanes!! Scott |
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FAA suspends Bruno Vassel's Pilot Certificate
On Monday, July 6, 2020 at 10:39:01 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Monday, July 6, 2020 at 9:00:04 AM UTC-7, wrote: On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 9:30:07 PM UTC+1, Jonathon May wrote: My sympathy is with is with Bruno but!!! In England 3 or so years back an occasional display pilot got it wrong at an air show and put his vintage jet onto the highwayman ,many dead but not him.The aftermath is still going on. It's not just the licence the whole flight has to be thought out ,written out and agreed with every one. If that was done the organises would have had to ask for all the paperwork to show their "duty of care",it's not just Bruno's fault. At a UK comp you need your comp licence ,glider inspection certs ,insurance and medical cert to compete.Because the organisers can't afford any jack the lad thats done a bit turning up and putting everyone else's life at risk. And they do "forget their medical has lapsed or they forgot to pay the insurance" .Thats why we check At 17:11 27 June 2020, Scott Williams wrote: On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 12:25:20 AM UTC-5, 2G wrote: On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 9:46:49 PM UTC-7, Charles Longley wrote: Wow bummer! Bruno is a super nice guy. I message him occasionally on FB= for advice. =20 Air shows are highly regulated events. I know - I have been involved in s= everal as a volunteer. The FAA oversees each of these events, as is their d= uty as codified by law. All performers are expected to know the regulations= , as in "ignorance of the law is no excuse." Here is an excerpt of these re= gulations (https://fsims.faa.gov/WDocs/8900.1/V...%20Admin/Chapt er%20= 06/03_006_001.htm): =20 1) Aerobatic Maneuvering. Requires a Statement of Aerobatic Competency= (SAC) with an aerobatic maneuvering endorsement for civilian pilots (see s= ubparagraph 3-146B). a) In a solo flight, aerobatic maneuvering is when the pitch attitude = of the aircraft is greater than 60 degrees above or below the horizon and/o= r the angle of bank is greater than 75 degrees in reference to the horizon. b) In a formation flight, aerobatic maneuvering is when the pitch atti= tude of an aircraft is greater than 60 degrees above or below the horizon a= nd/or the bank angle is greater than 75 degrees to the horizon. 2) Dynamic Maneuvering. Requires a SAC with a dynamic maneuvering endo= rsement for civilian pilots (see subparagraph 3-146B). a) In a solo flight, dynamic maneuvering includes abrupt maneuvering, = crossing maneuvers, and opposing maneuvers. The pitch and bank limitations = are when the pitch attitude of the aircraft is less than or equal to 60 deg= rees above or below the horizon and/or the bank angle is less than or equal= to 90 degrees in reference to the horizon. b) In a formation flight, dynamic maneuvering includes formation separ= ation, formation configuration/position changes, rejoins, crossing maneuver= s, and opposing maneuvers. The pitch and bank limitations are when the pitc= h attitude of the aircraft is less than or equal to 60 degrees above or bel= ow the horizon and/or the bank angle is less than or equal to 75 degrees in= reference to the horizon. =20 All of this has NOTHING to do with Boeing and aircraft certification. =20 Tom turd in the punch bowl n. A person who spoils a pleasant social situation. This metaphor is powered by a particularly vivid contrast: the inviting sen= sory appeal of a festive beverage juxtaposed with the revolting suggestion = of feculent contagion. Therefore, labeling someone a turd in the punch bowl= is most appropriate when the individual's deleterious influence goes beyon= d mere faux pas or nuisance behaviors, and rises to the level of deliberate= offense for its own sake. Consider that the literal act of depositing or e= xcreting fecal matter into a communal food-service container would be sabot= age. The punch bowl and the feces connote certain additional nuances. The former= is a symbol of public community, as such dispensers are frequently encount= ered at parties where they become a focal point for interaction. Freud famo= usly identified feces with aggression and the possessive instinct. Thus a t= urd in the punch bowl suggests rage toward, and / or the urge to conquer, a= community or society as a whole. Defecating into a punch bowl is a very pu= blic act, in contrast with poisoning the well or laying an upper decker, wh= ich are generally surreptitious. In particular then, to be a turd in the pu= nch bowl is to be a willful and attention-seeking obstructor to the success= of a social community. There is so much still to come to light, such as an altimeter being fitted that was bought on Ebay It certainly is not over It is the regulations that do keep us all safe Care to elaborate? If it is illegal to install an altimeter purchased from ebay, I'm rightly or wrongly assuming that is what you are suggesting, please point to the regulation that you are referring to. After all, as you say, it is the regulations that do keep us all safe. It is the same as buying a used altimeter from a friend. If your aircraft is experimental, you can put anything in it. If it is certified, the ALT better be TSO'd. Tom |
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It is the same as buying a used altimeter from a friend. If your aircraft i= s experimental, you can put anything in it. If it is certified, the ALT bet= ter be TSO'd. Tom ..and in Europe we don't have any such thing as an experimental category. |
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