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Pilot Chronicles is Looking for Pilots
If you're a pilot with a hair-raising story to tell (and who doesn't
have at least one of those), we encourage you to share it at Pilot Chronicles. Pilot Chronicles is a free website where pilots learn from the experiences of other pilots. It's a great way to improve your knowledge and situational awareness. While you're visiting we encourage you to chronicle one of your own stories - talk about what happened, how you reacted, and what you learned from the experience. This is a brand new website so you will be among the first visitors. We hope you'll help get this project off the ground (bad pun intended) by posting a story or two. Happy flying! Ron Pilot Chronicles http://www.pilotchronicles.com A good pilot is always learning... a GREAT pilot shares what they've learned. |
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Thanks for your response to our post. It is certainly not the intent
of Pilot Chronicles to compete with the message boards. What we provide is a focused approach to the presentation and cataloging of pilot experience with functionality quite different from message boards. The boards are great but the format just didn't fit into what we were trying to accomplish. That's why we don't (and never will) offer message boards on our site. We'll leave that to the Googles and iPilots of the world. In fact, we've even listed the Google Aviation Groups on our links page. We're simply a group of dedicated pilots that want to express our passion for flying and hopefully help other pilots in the process. I hope you'll click on over for a visit sometime. I think you'll appreciate what we're trying to do. Ron Pilot Chronicles www.pilotchronicles.com "R.Hubbell" wrote in message ... On 10 Jan 2004 17:27:10 -0800 (pdxflyer) wrote: If you're a pilot with a hair-raising story to tell (and who doesn't have at least one of those), we encourage you to share it at Pilot Chronicles. Here's the deal, this heirarchy is where the stories are.... So there's no incentive to go to that site and post stories since this is where it's done. It's called Usenet and it's been around longer than the www. If you're trying to generate traffic to your site there are other ways to do that. But I suspect you won't find a lot of people here to post stories there. You could maintain and host the rec.aviation.piloting FAQs or you could maintain a list of unique GA planes or like that. R. Hubbell Pilot Chronicles is a free website where pilots learn from the experiences of other pilots. It's a great way to improve your knowledge and situational awareness. While you're visiting we encourage you to chronicle one of your own stories - talk about what happened, how you reacted, and what you learned from the experience. This is a brand new website so you will be among the first visitors. We hope you'll help get this project off the ground (bad pun intended) by posting a story or two. Happy flying! Ron Pilot Chronicles http://www.pilotchronicles.com A good pilot is always learning... a GREAT pilot shares what they've learned. |
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"R.Hubbell" writes:
Here's the deal, this heirarchy is where the stories are.... So there's no incentive to go to that site and post stories since this is where it's done. It's called Usenet and it's been around longer than the www. *But* there are HTTP interfaces to it too. (BTW, I'm not agreeing that Usenet is somehow better just because it's been around longer. I know of a lot of old things that aren't worthwhile. Usenet isn't one of them though.) If you're trying to generate traffic to your site there are other ways to do that. But I suspect you won't find a lot of people here to post stories there. Indeed. I would hope that someone with a real story to share would be interested in *sharing* it, not locking it in some proprietary Web site. Posting it to Usenet makes it easy to find and easy to discuss. (Don't get me started on "Web boards.") Sometimes the best part of the story is when someone says "Couldn't you have...?" and the answer is "Doh! I wish I had thought of that!" There's a lot to learn from stories. That's curtailed by putting them in proprietary systems. You could maintain and host the rec.aviation.piloting FAQs or you could maintain a list of unique GA planes or like that. ....or even maintain lists of references to stories posted to Usenet. If I found well-organized lists of Google links, I'd probably be inclined to browse them. --kyler |
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OK, I didn't want to go down this road but what the hell...
It sounds like we're all in agreement that sharing useful information is a good thing. What we seem to be hung up on is the way in which we facilitate the sharing. I agree with Kyler that just because something has been around for a long time doesn't necessarily mean it's better. But again I come back to one of my earlier statements which is, Pilot Chronicles is not intended to be better or worse than Usenet or any other forum. It's meant to be different. If you prefer the message board format for sharing your stories I say "great", go for it. Just know that there now exists another way to share your experiences. There's nothing wrong with having choices available. Even though I love vanilla ice cream I sure appreciate there being a hundred other flavors to choose from. It's only been up for a week, but I believe our site already has a decidedly different tone than the message boards. And judging by the supportive email I've received, it's a tone that must be appealing to some of you. What I strongly take issue with is the comment regarding stories being locked up in a proprietary web site. We are a public web site just like the message boards. Our members maintain control of the chronicles they submit. They have complete editing capability, they can add/swap/delete photos, and of course they control their membership information. In short, we give members as much control and access as possible without compromising the integrity and security of the web site. Your use of the word "proprietary" seems to imply otherwise. I'd like to end this discussion by inviting anyone that's interested to stop by Pilot Chronicles for a visit. The web site is a labor of love. We simply offer pilots another alternative for sharing their valuable experience with the aviation community. Ron Site Administrator - Pilot Chronicles http://www.pilotchronicles.com |
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Pdxflyer,
We're simply a group of dedicated pilots that want to express our passion for flying By publishing not "any flying story", but only the hair-rising ones? That's kind of weird, don't you think? -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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Kyler,
I don't know why your chosen method of defending Usenet is by trashing the efforts of other web sites. This is troubling and a bit confusing. If you don't want to use our site to share your pilot knowledge and experience, that's perfectly fine. In fact, you probably wouldn't get much enjoyment out of it because it's not designed to be a confrontational forum. I think I've been very forthcoming in explaining what we're trying to accomplish with Pilot Chronicles but for some reason you still feel a need to question our integrity and motives. I assume that's why you posted the name and address of my web development business - information which is easily accessible to anyone by simply performing a search of the whois database. This does however make me question your integrity since you must feel it's OK to violate the terms and conditions of the whois database by republishing it's data to a public forum. Nevertheless, thank you for the free plug, Kyler. For those of you that missed it, here's the contact info for my freelance web design business: InStep Interactive 5136 NE Alameda St. Portland, OR 97213 Website: http://www.instepinteractive.com And since you seem so interested in the "behind the scenes" of Pilot Chronicles, here's a little something extra just for you Kyler... I'm married with no children, my dog's name is Cider, and when I'm not flying I'm either windsurfing or riding my '94 Harley Sportster. I hope you'll sleep better tonight. Before I end this post (and hopefully this thread) I did want to respond to Thomas' comment regarding my use of the term "hair-raising" experiences. I did not mean to imply that only death defying experiences need apply. We are looking for any story that taught a pilot a lesson. I will choose my words more carefully next time. That's the kind of constructive critism I can use. Thanks Thomas. Ron Pilot Chronicles http://www.pilotchronicles.com |
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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 16:21:37 GMT Kyler Laird wrote:
"R.Hubbell" writes: Here's the deal, this heirarchy is where the stories are.... So there's no incentive to go to that site and post stories since this is where it's done. It's called Usenet and it's been around longer than the www. *But* there are HTTP interfaces to it too. (BTW, I'm not agreeing that Usenet is somehow better just because it's been around longer. I never said it was better, just that it was around longer. The OP seemed to not comprehend Usenet fully so I pointed that out. I know of a lot of old things that aren't worthwhile. Usenet isn't one of them though.) If you're trying to generate traffic to your site there are other ways to do that. But I suspect you won't find a lot of people here to post stories there. Indeed. I would hope that someone with a real story to share would be interested in *sharing* it, not locking it in some proprietary Web site. Posting it to Usenet makes it easy to find and easy to discuss. (Don't get me started on "Web boards.") Sometimes the Right Usenet is 24/7 all over the globe and it's essentially forever with the advent of google.com (deja.com used to do that) best part of the story is when someone says "Couldn't you have...?" and the answer is "Doh! I wish I had thought of that!" There's a lot to learn from stories. That's curtailed by putting them in proprietary systems. You could maintain and host the rec.aviation.piloting FAQs or you could maintain a list of unique GA planes or like that. ...or even maintain lists of references to stories posted to Usenet. If I found well-organized lists of Google links, I'd probably be inclined to browse them. I've seen that done in places but it's rare. I agree it's useful. R. Hubbell --kyler |
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On 11 Jan 2004 21:11:25 -0800 (pdxflyer) wrote:
OK, I didn't want to go down this road but what the hell... It sounds like we're all in agreement that sharing useful information is a good thing. What we seem to be hung up on is the way in which we facilitate the sharing. I agree with Kyler that just because something has been around for a long time doesn't necessarily mean it's better. But again I come back See my other post I never said that, you both inferred that though. to one of my earlier statements which is, Pilot Chronicles is not intended to be better or worse than Usenet or any other forum. It's meant to be different. If you prefer the message board format for sharing your stories I say "great", go for it. Just know that there now exists another way to share your experiences. There's nothing wrong with having choices available. Even though I love vanilla ice cream I sure appreciate there being a hundred other flavors to choose from. It's only been up for a week, but I believe our site already has a decidedly different tone than the message boards. And judging by the supportive email I've received, it's a tone that must be appealing to some of you. What I strongly take issue with is the comment regarding stories being locked up in a proprietary web site. We are a public web site just like the message boards. Our members maintain control of the chronicles they submit. They have complete editing capability, they can add/swap/delete photos, and of course they control their membership information. In short, we give members as much control and access as possible without compromising the integrity and security of the web site. Your use of the word "proprietary" seems to imply otherwise. Usenet is global, 24/7 and I will bet that it will be around for a very long time. Usenet posts can't be censored or removed. They can (ok moderated groups allow more control) be cancelled by the original poster. But web sites have been known to go away when someone loses interest or decides not to pay the bills anymore. Not so with Usenet. The differences between Usenet and a web site discussion board are vast. How many backups of Usenet are out there? Usenet can survive just about anything. You as the webmaster have complete control over the board, you could prevent posters from posting if you found them offensive. It can happen on Usenet but it's rare because Usenet is meant to be a rough and tumble place at times. Most the time it's a good place and the good groups carry on decently for the most part. Viva la Usenet! R. Hubbell I'd like to end this discussion by inviting anyone that's interested to stop by Pilot Chronicles for a visit. The web site is a labor of love. We simply offer pilots another alternative for sharing their valuable experience with the aviation community. Ron Site Administrator - Pilot Chronicles http://www.pilotchronicles.com |
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