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"Newps" wrote in message ... In the absence of radio or phone contact, can you unilaterally cancel IFR and inform ATC after you land? No. Why not? |
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message ... In the absence of radio or phone contact, can you unilaterally cancel IFR and inform ATC after you land? I don't know of anything that prohibits it. |
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Had I canceled, he might have been
released, not seen me swimming towards him in the haze, and gone out on the runway right in front of me. .... and you would have seen him, and he would have seen you. This is supposed to be VFR weather, right? Now, if you are flying visually with no IFR clearance in IFR murk, that's another story, and the book should be thrown. Jose -- Quantum Mechanics is like this: God =does= play dice with the universe, except there's no God, and there's no dice. And maybe there's no universe. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 15:07:24 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:
Let's assume I still had radio contact with ATC 2 miles out and canceled at that point. I could see how that would improve the legal picture, but it certainly doesn't make it any safer. In fact, it could have made it worse. As we came in, there was a guy on the ground holding short of the runway, presumably waiting for his IFR release. Had I canceled, he might have been released, not seen me swimming towards him in the haze, and gone out on the runway right in front of me. How does it improve the legal situation to cancel IFR when you are still IMC? (You mentioned visibility of 2 1/2 miles). Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA) |
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Ron Rosenfeld wrote:
How does it improve the legal situation to cancel IFR when you are still IMC? (You mentioned visibility of 2 1/2 miles). I my original post, I said something like "reports of 2-1/2 to 4, assume 2-1/2". In a followup, I asked people to ignore that assumption and consider accept the possibility that it might be 3. My apologies if I confused the issue with this pair of contradictory statements. |
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:39:15 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:
Ron Rosenfeld wrote: How does it improve the legal situation to cancel IFR when you are still IMC? (You mentioned visibility of 2 1/2 miles). I my original post, I said something like "reports of 2-1/2 to 4, assume 2-1/2". In a followup, I asked people to ignore that assumption and consider accept the possibility that it might be 3. My apologies if I confused the issue with this pair of contradictory statements. I confuse easily these days g. But assuming you were legal to cancel IFR, and wanted to do so, could you not contact FSS through one of the relatively close VOR's, and cancel that way? Or are they, too, out of radio reception range at that altitude? I note HUO or CMK might be within range. Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA) |
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Click the mic and turn the lights on.
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On 14 Aug 2005 07:54:47 -0700, Doug wrote:
Click the mic and turn the lights on. Doug, No PCL per Duat. Allen |
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On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 10:46:09 -0500, A Lieberman
wrote: On 14 Aug 2005 07:54:47 -0700, Doug wrote: Click the mic and turn the lights on. Doug, No PCL per Duat. Allen PCL on 122.8 per the Jepp approach chart Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA) |
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