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Alternate requirements
I've spent the past couple of hours researching this in the regs and
newsgroups... and am still a little confused If I require an alternate airport for a IFR Flight plan, does that alternate have to have official weather reporting? I read somewhere that: "The requirements for an airport to qualify for alternate minimums are weather reporting and approach facility (navaid) monitoring" But I also read that I can file an alternate with no approaches and no weather reporting as long as I can descend under Basic VFR from the MEA to the airport (Part 91). What gives? |
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"Anthony Chambers" wrote in
: I've spent the past couple of hours researching this in the regs and newsgroups... and am still a little confused If I require an alternate airport for a IFR Flight plan, does that alternate have to have official weather reporting? I read somewhere that: "The requirements for an airport to qualify for alternate minimums are weather reporting and approach facility (navaid) monitoring" But I also read that I can file an alternate with no approaches and no weather reporting as long as I can descend under Basic VFR from the MEA to the airport (Part 91). You can file a destination with no approaches and no weather reporting as long as you can descend VFR. But you have to have a legal alternate to do so. See FAR 91.169, http://tinyurl.com/no9h -- Regards, Stan |
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"Anthony Chambers" wrote in message ... I've spent the past couple of hours researching this in the regs and newsgroups... and am still a little confused If I require an alternate airport for a IFR Flight plan, does that alternate have to have official weather reporting? I read somewhere that: The rule is: (c) IFR alternate airport weather minima. Unless otherwise authorized by the Administrator, no person may include an alternate airport in an IFR flight plan unless appropriate weather reports or weather forecasts, or a combination of them, [600-2, 800-2, or VFR from MEA down as appropriate]. Whether you can glean this from area forcasts in the absence of on-field reporting is up for you to decide (as a non-commercial operator). Airports without weather that have approaches will generally have NA Alternate Minimums. |
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"Stan Gosnell" wrote in message ... You can file a destination with no approaches and no weather reporting as long as you can descend VFR. But you have to have a legal alternate to do so. That's not what he asked. |
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"Ron Natalie" wrote in
m: "Stan Gosnell" wrote in message ... You can file a destination with no approaches and no weather reporting as long as you can descend VFR. But you have to have a legal alternate to do so. That's not what he asked. I thought it was. Perhaps I wasn't clear. He can file a destination with no approaches or weather, but he can't file an alternate with no approaches or weather. I think he was confusing destination and alternate requirements. -- Regards, Stan |
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"Stan Gosnell" wrote in message ... I thought it was. Perhaps I wasn't clear. He can file a destination with no approaches or weather, but he can't file an alternate with no approaches or weather. I think he was confusing destination and alternate requirements. He specifically asked if the alternate had to have weather reporting. There is no requirement that the alternate have an approach nor is their a strict requirement for "on-field" weather at the alternate. If the forcast is for severe clear with no "chance of" or "probability of" lower than VFR conditions from the MEA down to the ground, it's legal to use that airport as an alternate. |
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Unless that airport is one that is not authorized as an alternate. As I understand it, most that don't
have wx reporting are so designated. Ron Natalie wrote: "Stan Gosnell" wrote in message ... I thought it was. Perhaps I wasn't clear. He can file a destination with no approaches or weather, but he can't file an alternate with no approaches or weather. I think he was confusing destination and alternate requirements. He specifically asked if the alternate had to have weather reporting. There is no requirement that the alternate have an approach nor is their a strict requirement for "on-field" weather at the alternate. If the forcast is for severe clear with no "chance of" or "probability of" lower than VFR conditions from the MEA down to the ground, it's legal to use that airport as an alternate. -- --Ray Andraka, P.E. President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 http://www.andraka.com "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, 1759 |
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"Ray Andraka" wrote in message ... Unless that airport is one that is not authorized as an alternate. As I understand it, most that don't have wx reporting are so designated. As I pointed out in my original response, if the airport has an approach, then the TERPS say to mark it as NA if it has no weather. If the airport doesn't have an approach, there is nowhere to mark it as NA (of course, you're pretty much going in their in VFR conditions anyhow so it doesn't matter). |
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 16:33:14 -0400, Ray Andraka
wrote: Unless that airport is one that is not authorized as an alternate. As I understand it, most that don't have wx reporting are so designated. I think it is approaches that are NA, not airports. For instance W50 has no IFR approaches, so it has no NA approaches and the AFD does not indicate it the airport is NA. I would assume that any visual approach that is not NA is suitable for an alternate. |
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