Need advice for groundcrew vehicle antenna for 123.5

I have a Roadtrek (small Chevy van converted to a mini-motorhome) which has
a fiberglass upper roof.

Wanting to set up good ground to air communications ability on 123.5 and
123.3 with a Tait mobile radio in the vehicle. The problem is establishing
a ground plane with the fiberglass roof.

Other than a magnetic mount antenna on the metal hood....any suggestions?

Wouldn't mind a fiberglass whip type set-up if the performance gains
justified it, but I would like it to be functional while driving....also
don't know how to establish the ground plane.

Appreciate any advice. Thanks!

J4

On Oct 22, 4:25*pm, "John Bojack" wrote:
I have a Roadtrek (small Chevy van converted to a mini-motorhome) which has
a fiberglass upper roof.

Wanting to set up good ground to air communications ability on 123.5 and
123.3 with a Tait mobile radio in the vehicle. * The problem is establishing
a ground plane with the fiberglass roof.

Other than a magnetic mount antenna on the metal hood....any suggestions?

Wouldn't mind a fiberglass whip type set-up if the performance gains
justified it, but I would like it to be functional while driving....also
don't know how to establish the ground plane.

Appreciate any advice. *Thanks!

J4

I'll just point out that 5/8 wavelength whip antennas do not need a
ground plane. 1/4 wave ones definitely do. You may well do better with
a 5/8 one for lots of reasons. Your need there will be a secure mount
location to the longer whip.

Darryl

Darryl,

I disagree with you on this one. A 5/8 DOES require a ground plane. However, a 1/2 wave length doesn't.

Respectfully,

Wayne
Ham radio W7ADK
http://www.soaridaho.com/


"Darryl Ramm" wrote in message ...
On Oct 22, 4:25 pm, "John Bojack" wrote:

I'll just point out that 5/8 wavelength whip antennas do not need a
ground plane. 1/4 wave ones definitely do. You may well do better with
a 5/8 one for lots of reasons. Your need there will be a secure mount
location to the longer whip.

Darryl

Wayne

Doh what a silly slip, thanks for catching that. But you can get
base 5/8 antennas that include the round plane stubs like Paul
mentioned here.

Darryl
(I won't embarrass myself with my expired amateur callsign).

On Oct 22, 5:29*pm, "Wayne Paul" wrote:
Darryl,

I disagree with you on this one. *A 5/8 DOES require a ground plane. *However, a 1/2 wave length doesn't.

Respectfully,

Wayne
Ham radio W7ADKhttp://www.soaridaho.com/

"Darryl Ramm" wrote in ...

On Oct 22, 4:25 pm, "John Bojack" wrote:

I'll just point out that 5/8 wavelength whip antennas do not need a
ground plane. 1/4 wave ones definitely do. You may well do better with
a 5/8 one for lots of reasons. Your need there will be a secure mount
location to the longer whip.

Darryl

On Oct 22, 6:43*pm, Darryl Ramm wrote:
Wayne

Doh what a silly slip, thanks for catching that. *But you can get
base *5/8 antennas that include the round plane stubs like Paul
mentioned here.

Darryl
(I won't embarrass myself with my expired amateur callsign).

On Oct 22, 5:29*pm, "Wayne Paul" wrote:

Darryl,

I disagree with you on this one. *A 5/8 DOES require a ground plane. *However, a 1/2 wave length doesn't.

Respectfully,

Wayne
Ham radio W7ADKhttp://www.soaridaho.com/

"Darryl Ramm" wrote in ...

On Oct 22, 4:25 pm, "John Bojack" wrote:

I'll just point out that 5/8 wavelength whip antennas do not need a
ground plane. 1/4 wave ones definitely do. You may well do better with
a 5/8 one for lots of reasons. Your need there will be a secure mount
location to the longer whip.

Darryl

In your defense Darryl I've always had better trans/receive when I
mount a 5/8 wave antenna on a 40' stainless steel tanker than I do on
a fiberglass roof Kenworth tractor. 10-4

On Oct 22, 5:29*pm, "Wayne Paul" wrote:
Darryl,

I disagree with you on this one. *A 5/8 DOES require a ground plane. *However, a 1/2 wave length doesn't.

Respectfully,

Wayne
Ham radio W7ADKhttp://www.soaridaho.com/

"Darryl Ramm" wrote in ...

On Oct 22, 4:25 pm, "John Bojack" wrote:

I'll just point out that 5/8 wavelength whip antennas do not need a
ground plane. 1/4 wave ones definitely do. You may well do better with
a 5/8 one for lots of reasons. Your need there will be a secure mount
location to the longer whip.

Darryl

Wayne,
Wouldn't this have been a good place to link to your 'coax dipole'
antenna?
(I was looking for it and got side-tracked [squirrel!] looking at
Scheder stuff)

What is "ground crew"??

Mike

"Grider Pirate" wrote in message ...

Wayne,
Wouldn't this have been a good place to link to your 'coax dipole'
antenna?
(I was looking for it and got side-tracked [squirrel!] looking at
Scheder stuff)

James,

Is this the link you were looking for (http://www.soaridaho.com/Antenna/) before you got side-tracked on the Schreder Designs (http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/) website?

Wayne
HP-14 "6F"
http://www.soaridaho.com/

On Oct 25, 5:51*pm, "Wayne Paul" wrote:
"Grider Pirate" wrote in ...

Wayne,
*Wouldn't this have been a good place to link to your 'coax dipole'
antenna?
(I was looking for it and got side-tracked [squirrel!] looking at
Scheder stuff)

James,

Is this the link you were looking for (http://www.soaridaho.com/Antenna/) before you got side-tracked on the Schreder Designs (http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/) website?

Wayne
HP-14 "6F"http://www.soaridaho.com/

That's the one! BTW, without that link, I don't know how to find it.

Hi John,

I sell a nice 5/8 wave antenna that includes 4 radial rods at the base which
act as the ground plane. You can see details he
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/larsen.htm#Larsen-BS-5-8

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"John Bojack" wrote in message
...
I have a Roadtrek (small Chevy van converted to a mini-motorhome) which has
a fiberglass upper roof.

Wanting to set up good ground to air communications ability on 123.5 and
123.3 with a Tait mobile radio in the vehicle. The problem is
establishing a ground plane with the fiberglass roof.

Other than a magnetic mount antenna on the metal hood....any suggestions?

Wouldn't mind a fiberglass whip type set-up if the performance gains
justified it, but I would like it to be functional while driving....also
don't know how to establish the ground plane.

Appreciate any advice. Thanks!

J4