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Old November 18th 10, 01:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Mark
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Default Ethanol fuel and deteriorating composite fuel tanks

If you have a composite fuel tank and the fuel available in your area
has ethanol in it then you should google something like the
following...

ethanol fiberglass fuel tanks

There you will find out that the ethanol content appears to be a
significant player in relatively rapid deterioration of the resin and
therefore early failure of the fuel tank

Looks like the boaters have been seriously affected by the E10
situation and if your motorized sailplane also has a composite tank it
may be at risk of early failure.

AVGAS probably doesn't have Ethanol added so if you have a composite
fuel tank, it may be very wise to only use AVGAS even if autogas w/ 2
cycle mix is allowed.
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Old November 18th 10, 05:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Ethanol fuel and deteriorating composite fuel tanks

On Nov 17, 5:48*pm, Mark wrote:
If you have a composite fuel tank and the fuel available in your area
has ethanol in it then you should google something like the
following...

ethanol fiberglass fuel tanks


We stopped runing mogas in our STC'ed pawnees when CA Dumped MTBE and
went to 10% ethanol a few years back, Concern was more on the other
elements of the fuel system, I think the early Pawnee fuselage tank is
polyester.

aerodyne
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Old November 18th 10, 05:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Darryl Ramm
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Default Ethanol fuel and deteriorating composite fuel tanks

On Nov 17, 9:36*pm, wrote:
On Nov 17, 5:48*pm, Mark wrote:

If you have a composite fuel tank and the fuel available in your area
has ethanol in it then you should google something like the
following...


ethanol fiberglass fuel tanks


We stopped runing mogas in our STC'ed pawnees when CA Dumped MTBE and
went to 10% ethanol a few years back, *Concern was more on the other
elements of the fuel system, I think the early Pawnee fuselage tank is
polyester.

aerodyne


I think you want to be concerned with Polyester resin based tanks.

Not a drop of mogas is ever going in my ASH-26E, for possible tank
problems with Ethanol and other reasons including engine cooling.

Darryl
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Old November 18th 10, 03:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Ethanol fuel and deteriorating composite fuel tanks

On Nov 17, 9:42*pm, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:36*pm, wrote:

On Nov 17, 5:48*pm, Mark wrote:


If you have a composite fuel tank and the fuel available in your area
has ethanol in it then you should google something like the
following...


ethanol fiberglass fuel tanks


We stopped runing mogas in our STC'ed pawnees when CA Dumped MTBE and
went to 10% ethanol a few years back, *Concern was more on the other
elements of the fuel system, I think the early Pawnee fuselage tank is
polyester.


aerodyne


I think you want to be concerned with Polyester resin based tanks.

Not a drop of mogas is ever going in my ASH-26E, for possible tank
problems with Ethanol and other reasons including engine cooling.

Darryl


Polyester resin based composites have been used for underground mogas
storage tanks (gas stations) for decades. Polyester and vinylester
are very chemical resistant.

aerodyne
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Old November 18th 10, 03:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Darryl Ramm
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Default Ethanol fuel and deteriorating composite fuel tanks

On Nov 18, 7:23*am, wrote:
On Nov 17, 9:42*pm, Darryl Ramm wrote:



On Nov 17, 9:36*pm, wrote:


On Nov 17, 5:48*pm, Mark wrote:


If you have a composite fuel tank and the fuel available in your area
has ethanol in it then you should google something like the
following...


ethanol fiberglass fuel tanks


We stopped runing mogas in our STC'ed pawnees when CA Dumped MTBE and
went to 10% ethanol a few years back, *Concern was more on the other
elements of the fuel system, I think the early Pawnee fuselage tank is
polyester.


aerodyne


I think you want to be concerned with Polyester resin based tanks.


Not a drop of mogas is ever going in my ASH-26E, for possible tank
problems with Ethanol and other reasons including engine cooling.


Darryl


Polyester resin based composites have been used for underground mogas
storage tanks (gas stations) for decades. *Polyester and vinylester
are very chemical resistant.

aerodyne


Polyester based fiberglass tanks are exactly amongst those causing
concern with alcohol based fuels. You run it in your motorglider, I
won't in mine.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=alcohol+fibergl...tank+polyester

Darryl
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Old November 18th 10, 06:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Mark Jardini
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Default Ethanol fuel and deteriorating composite fuel tanks

aren't most of last decade birds built with epoxy resin?
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Old November 18th 10, 06:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Ethanol fuel and deteriorating composite fuel tanks

On 11/18/2010 7:29 AM, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Nov 18, 7:23 am, wrote:


Polyester resin based composites have been used for underground mogas
storage tanks (gas stations) for decades. Polyester and vinylester
are very chemical resistant.

aerodyne

Polyester based fiberglass tanks are exactly amongst those causing
concern with alcohol based fuels. You run it in your motorglider, I
won't in mine.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=alcohol+fibergl...tank+polyester

Darryl


How about epoxy resin? I think that's what is used in my ASH 26 E fuel
tank. Not that I have any intention using something other than 100LL.

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