RI tax madness

I'd like to find out more about this. Do you have a reference to an
official article?


"Roger Long" om wrote in
message ...
Say, this really looks to be for real. AOPA just advised me not to stay
overnight in RI or fly between airports until it blows over. I'm planning
on emailing the following to some of the FBO's to give them some
ammunition
in getting it overturned. Other northeast pilots might want to do
something
similar.

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Thank you for taking time to discuss the emergency tax regulation. I will
be informing our 25 club members that flights to RI in club aircraft are
prohibited until this matter is resolved. Although I understand that the
provision only applies to overnight stopovers or flights between RI
airports, I would not want a member faced with the choice between assuming
an economic liability equal to 7% of the aircraft's cost and taking off in
poor weather or with a mechanical problem. I also would not want their
choice of an emergency diversion airport effected by knowledge of this
provision.

I am confident that this tax provision will eventually be overturned by
the
courts, even if common sense does not prevail. In the meantime, we would
be
required to carry any tax judgement as a liability on our books which
would
impair our ability to borrow money or sell the aircraft. We could also be
exposed to legal costs defending against any action by the state to
collect.

I look forward to a successful resolution of this matter so that we, and
other GA pilots, will again feel free to fly to RI and spend our dollars
in
your state.

--
Roger Long

See the current Avweb.com. AOPA and the FBO I spoke to in RI both confirmed
that it is essentially accurate. The AOPA representative says they are hard
on it and something should appear on their site today or tomorrow.

--
Roger Long
Peter Gottlieb wrote in message
...
I'd like to find out more about this. Do you have a reference to an
official article?


"Roger Long" om wrote
in
message ...
Say, this really looks to be for real. AOPA just advised me not to stay
overnight in RI or fly between airports until it blows over. I'm
planning
on emailing the following to some of the FBO's to give them some
ammunition
in getting it overturned. Other northeast pilots might want to do
something
similar.


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--
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Thank you for taking time to discuss the emergency tax regulation. I
will
be informing our 25 club members that flights to RI in club aircraft are
prohibited until this matter is resolved. Although I understand that
the
provision only applies to overnight stopovers or flights between RI
airports, I would not want a member faced with the choice between
assuming
an economic liability equal to 7% of the aircraft's cost and taking off
in
poor weather or with a mechanical problem. I also would not want their
choice of an emergency diversion airport effected by knowledge of this
provision.

I am confident that this tax provision will eventually be overturned by
the
courts, even if common sense does not prevail. In the meantime, we
would
be
required to carry any tax judgement as a liability on our books which
would
impair our ability to borrow money or sell the aircraft. We could also
be
exposed to legal costs defending against any action by the state to
collect.

I look forward to a successful resolution of this matter so that we, and
other GA pilots, will again feel free to fly to RI and spend our dollars
in
your state.

--
Roger Long

I also saw the article on avweb this morning. Being a Rhode Island based pilot,
I am deeply troubled by this. I have spent a bit of time today trying to find
the legislation that enacts this, and so far have not found it. If you have a
bill or resolution number, I could use that when I call my rep to bitch about
it. We did have a bill in the legislature to repeal sales and use taxes on
aircraft related matters here in the state to help encourage business. This
news is diametrically opposed to what had been proposed in the bill earlier this
year.

Roger Long wrote:

See the current Avweb.com. AOPA and the FBO I spoke to in RI both confirmed
that it is essentially accurate. The AOPA representative says they are hard
on it and something should appear on their site today or tomorrow.

--
Roger Long
Peter Gottlieb wrote in message
...
I'd like to find out more about this. Do you have a reference to an
official article?


"Roger Long" om wrote
in
message ...
Say, this really looks to be for real. AOPA just advised me not to stay
overnight in RI or fly between airports until it blows over. I'm
planning
on emailing the following to some of the FBO's to give them some
ammunition
in getting it overturned. Other northeast pilots might want to do
something
similar.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
-------------------

Thank you for taking time to discuss the emergency tax regulation. I
will
be informing our 25 club members that flights to RI in club aircraft are
prohibited until this matter is resolved. Although I understand that
the
provision only applies to overnight stopovers or flights between RI
airports, I would not want a member faced with the choice between
assuming
an economic liability equal to 7% of the aircraft's cost and taking off
in
poor weather or with a mechanical problem. I also would not want their
choice of an emergency diversion airport effected by knowledge of this
provision.

I am confident that this tax provision will eventually be overturned by
the
courts, even if common sense does not prevail. In the meantime, we
would
be
required to carry any tax judgement as a liability on our books which
would
impair our ability to borrow money or sell the aircraft. We could also
be
exposed to legal costs defending against any action by the state to
collect.

I look forward to a successful resolution of this matter so that we, and
other GA pilots, will again feel free to fly to RI and spend our dollars
in
your state.

--
Roger Long





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--Ray Andraka, P.E.
President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc.
401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950
email
http://www.andraka.com

"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:08:31 -0400, Ray Andraka wrote:

I also saw the article on avweb this morning. Being a Rhode Island based pilot,
I am deeply troubled by this. I have spent a bit of time today trying to find
the legislation that enacts this, and so far have not found it. If you have a
bill or resolution number, I could use that when I call my rep to bitch about
it. We did have a bill in the legislature to repeal sales and use taxes on
aircraft related matters here in the state to help encourage business. This
news is diametrically opposed to what had been proposed in the bill earlier this
year.

http://www.rules.state.ri.us/rules/r...DOTAX_2510.pdf


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

Only having been a pilot for 2-years I can honestly say that this is the
most ridiculous "Russian Roulette" regulation I have seen yet.



"Roger Long" om wrote in
message ...
Say, this really looks to be for real. AOPA just advised me not to stay
overnight in RI or fly between airports until it blows over. I'm planning
on emailing the following to some of the FBO's to give them some
ammunition
in getting it overturned. Other northeast pilots might want to do
something
similar.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
-------------------

Thank you for taking time to discuss the emergency tax regulation. I will
be informing our 25 club members that flights to RI in club aircraft are
prohibited until this matter is resolved. Although I understand that the
provision only applies to overnight stopovers or flights between RI
airports, I would not want a member faced with the choice between assuming
an economic liability equal to 7% of the aircraft's cost and taking off in
poor weather or with a mechanical problem. I also would not want their
choice of an emergency diversion airport effected by knowledge of this
provision.

I am confident that this tax provision will eventually be overturned by
the
courts, even if common sense does not prevail. In the meantime, we would
be
required to carry any tax judgement as a liability on our books which
would
impair our ability to borrow money or sell the aircraft. We could also be
exposed to legal costs defending against any action by the state to
collect.

I look forward to a successful resolution of this matter so that we, and
other GA pilots, will again feel free to fly to RI and spend our dollars
in
your state.

--
Roger Long

I received the following response to an inquiry I made yesterday:

-----Original Message-----

From: Paul McVay [mailto
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 9:37 AM

To: me

Subject: Use tax on non-commercial aircraft



Mr. Foley:

Non-residents are not subject to the 7% R.I. Use Tax. This regulation

applies to persons or companies that may have some type of residency or

business location in Rhode Island.

Then they should have worded it to say exactly just that. As it's
currently worded, it says otherwise.


Mr. Foley:

Non-residents are not subject to the 7% R.I. Use Tax. This regulation

applies to persons or companies that may have some type of residency or

business location in Rhode Island.