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#2
March 5th 04, 01:02 AM
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He's right, you do. If you think the airplane is worth 10K, why did
you bust his balls and tell him you've only got 15K to spend? On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 13:55:36 -0800, "MRQB" wrote: The nerve of this guy telling me I have a lot to learn, Looks like this guy needs to learn how to read. This is the second time I have told this guy no it seems like he forgets things or need to go learn the meaning of NO. First he wanted to trade me for my Car I told him no a few months ago. I have looked at airplanes with way better engine times for a lot less looks like he is trying to recover his GPS costs and myself I don't care if I have a GPS that's why we learned how to plot a course and navigate. Goof Balls Airplane Ad http://www.planetraderz.com/details.asp?si=785&li=248 Good luck finding your "pie in the sky"... you must be very new to this airplane business. Add to your wealth of knowledge that 1800 TBO is just a recommendation... and when you buy that plane with old radios... remember to bring your wallet with you. You have a lot to learn and it looks like you will learn the hard way like most newbies... -----Original Message----- From: MRQB ] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:51 PM To: Subject: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad! Please fully read my ad I have it commented below I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000), Your Asking $15,900 Engine Must Not Exceed TBO, Your airplane has SMOH 1982.25+ Your airplane's engine is Run Out 1,800 TBO Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, Your 150 Is a 1966 Your airplane is worth only about $10,000 to me and that is being generous please dont bother me with your attempts to sell me an airplane that dont meet my needs. ----- Original Message ----- From: "OpenAirNet Classifieds" To: "Steven Rhine" Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:40 AM Subject: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad! Hello Steven! Darrell Reiley has submitted the following inquiry about your classified ad: Customer Message: I just lower the price on my 150, you should reconsider. 15900 with the Garmin 250XL GPS moving map / Com 150 hrs STOH, this will fly you for hundreds of hours easy. Plus low airframe time also. I have flown her over 30 hours since Dec 03. Don't end up with a piece of junk. You can even call the AI that maintains her... Here is your ad: Item: Cessna 150/152 Price: $15,000.00 Posted: 2/21/2004 Description: I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000) for a Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, High Airframe Time Ok, Engine Must Not Exceed TBO, Airplane must be in flying condition, in current annual and have all the logs, No Major Damage & All AD's C/W. Aircraft can be ugly i am not wanting looks. I am just looking for somthing to build time in. I will pay cash upon pick up of airplane (yes I have cash the green paper kind no banks involved). Call me at 1-360-521-8452 to discuss a quick sale I am located in Vancouver, Wa 98662 Please E-mail Photos & Spec's to mrqb@q... Prior to calling.br You can reply to this inquiry from Darrell by either clicking on the following email or hitting reply in your mail browser. Inquirers email: Thanks for using OpenAirNet to sell your classified items! Go flying today! OpenAirNet - Fun Places to Fly! www.OpenAirNet.com www.Fun-Places-To-Fly.com 
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#3
March 5th 04, 04:06 AM
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Look again he sent me the message offering me the plane at $15,900 when my
add said $15,000 start from the bottom start at the bottom and read up. "Stu Gotts" wrote in message ... He's right, you do. If you think the airplane is worth 10K, why did you bust his balls and tell him you've only got 15K to spend? On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 13:55:36 -0800, "MRQB" wrote: The nerve of this guy telling me I have a lot to learn, Looks like this guy needs to learn how to read. This is the second time I have told this guy no it seems like he forgets things or need to go learn the meaning of NO. First he wanted to trade me for my Car I told him no a few months ago. I have looked at airplanes with way better engine times for a lot less looks like he is trying to recover his GPS costs and myself I don't care if I have a GPS that's why we learned how to plot a course and navigate. Goof Balls Airplane Ad http://www.planetraderz.com/details.asp?si=785&li=248 Good luck finding your "pie in the sky"... you must be very new to this airplane business. Add to your wealth of knowledge that 1800 TBO is just a recommendation... and when you buy that plane with old radios... remember to bring your wallet with you. You have a lot to learn and it looks like you will learn the hard way like most newbies... -----Original Message----- From: MRQB ] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:51 PM To: Subject: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad! Please fully read my ad I have it commented below I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000), Your Asking $15,900 Engine Must Not Exceed TBO, Your airplane has SMOH 1982.25+ Your airplane's engine is Run Out 1,800 TBO Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, Your 150 Is a 1966 Your airplane is worth only about $10,000 to me and that is being generous please dont bother me with your attempts to sell me an airplane that dont meet my needs. ----- Original Message ----- From: "OpenAirNet Classifieds" To: "Steven Rhine" Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:40 AM Subject: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad! Hello Steven! Darrell Reiley has submitted the following inquiry about your classified ad: Customer Message: I just lower the price on my 150, you should reconsider. 15900 with the Garmin 250XL GPS moving map / Com 150 hrs STOH, this will fly you for hundreds of hours easy. Plus low airframe time also. I have flown her over 30 hours since Dec 03. Don't end up with a piece of junk. You can even call the AI that maintains her... Here is your ad: Item: Cessna 150/152 Price: $15,000.00 Posted: 2/21/2004 Description: I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000) for a Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, High Airframe Time Ok, Engine Must Not Exceed TBO, Airplane must be in flying condition, in current annual and have all the logs, No Major Damage & All AD's C/W. Aircraft can be ugly i am not wanting looks. I am just looking for somthing to build time in. I will pay cash upon pick up of airplane (yes I have cash the green paper kind no banks involved). Call me at 1-360-521-8452 to discuss a quick sale I am located in Vancouver, Wa 98662 Please E-mail Photos & Spec's to mrqb@q... Prior to calling.br You can reply to this inquiry from Darrell by either clicking on the following email or hitting reply in your mail browser. Inquirers email: Thanks for using OpenAirNet to sell your classified items! Go flying today! OpenAirNet - Fun Places to Fly! www.OpenAirNet.com www.Fun-Places-To-Fly.com
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#4
March 5th 04, 08:41 AM
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Okay, the whole deal confused me. Thanks!
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 20:06:06 -0800, "MRQB" wrote: Look again he sent me the message offering me the plane at $15,900 when my add said $15,000 start from the bottom start at the bottom and read up. "Stu Gotts" wrote in message .. . He's right, you do. If you think the airplane is worth 10K, why did you bust his balls and tell him you've only got 15K to spend? On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 13:55:36 -0800, "MRQB" wrote: The nerve of this guy telling me I have a lot to learn, Looks like this guy needs to learn how to read. This is the second time I have told this guy no it seems like he forgets things or need to go learn the meaning of NO. First he wanted to trade me for my Car I told him no a few months ago. I have looked at airplanes with way better engine times for a lot less looks like he is trying to recover his GPS costs and myself I don't care if I have a GPS that's why we learned how to plot a course and navigate. Goof Balls Airplane Ad http://www.planetraderz.com/details.asp?si=785&li=248 Good luck finding your "pie in the sky"... you must be very new to this airplane business. Add to your wealth of knowledge that 1800 TBO is just a recommendation... and when you buy that plane with old radios... remember to bring your wallet with you. You have a lot to learn and it looks like you will learn the hard way like most newbies... -----Original Message----- From: MRQB ] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:51 PM To: Subject: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad! Please fully read my ad I have it commented below I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000), Your Asking $15,900 Engine Must Not Exceed TBO, Your airplane has SMOH 1982.25+ Your airplane's engine is Run Out 1,800 TBO Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, Your 150 Is a 1966 Your airplane is worth only about $10,000 to me and that is being generous please dont bother me with your attempts to sell me an airplane that dont meet my needs. ----- Original Message ----- From: "OpenAirNet Classifieds" To: "Steven Rhine" Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:40 AM Subject: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad! Hello Steven! Darrell Reiley has submitted the following inquiry about your classified ad: Customer Message: I just lower the price on my 150, you should reconsider. 15900 with the Garmin 250XL GPS moving map / Com 150 hrs STOH, this will fly you for hundreds of hours easy. Plus low airframe time also. I have flown her over 30 hours since Dec 03. Don't end up with a piece of junk. You can even call the AI that maintains her... Here is your ad: Item: Cessna 150/152 Price: $15,000.00 Posted: 2/21/2004 Description: I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000) for a Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, High Airframe Time Ok, Engine Must Not Exceed TBO, Airplane must be in flying condition, in current annual and have all the logs, No Major Damage & All AD's C/W. Aircraft can be ugly i am not wanting looks. I am just looking for somthing to build time in. I will pay cash upon pick up of airplane (yes I have cash the green paper kind no banks involved). Call me at 1-360-521-8452 to discuss a quick sale I am located in Vancouver, Wa 98662 Please E-mail Photos & Spec's to mrqb@q... Prior to calling.br You can reply to this inquiry from Darrell by either clicking on the following email or hitting reply in your mail browser. Inquirers email: Thanks for using OpenAirNet to sell your classified items! Go flying today! OpenAirNet - Fun Places to Fly! www.OpenAirNet.com www.Fun-Places-To-Fly.com
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#5
March 6th 04, 04:11 AM
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I wouldn't get too mad about the 15,900 part. If I were selling a plane, I
would talk to anyone who seemed like they may be in the market at all. Also, Negotiating stupidly can often have great results. OTOH anyone who wastes his time pushing when someone is obviously not moving is an idiot. That's where I draw the line. "MRQB" wrote in message ... Look again he sent me the message offering me the plane at $15,900 when my add said $15,000 start from the bottom start at the bottom and read up. "Stu Gotts" wrote in message ... He's right, you do. If you think the airplane is worth 10K, why did you bust his balls and tell him you've only got 15K to spend? On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 13:55:36 -0800, "MRQB" wrote: The nerve of this guy telling me I have a lot to learn, Looks like this guy needs to learn how to read. This is the second time I have told this guy no it seems like he forgets things or need to go learn the meaning of NO. First he wanted to trade me for my Car I told him no a few months ago. I have looked at airplanes with way better engine times for a lot less looks like he is trying to recover his GPS costs and myself I don't care if I have a GPS that's why we learned how to plot a course and navigate. Goof Balls Airplane Ad http://www.planetraderz.com/details.asp?si=785&li=248 Good luck finding your "pie in the sky"... you must be very new to this airplane business. Add to your wealth of knowledge that 1800 TBO is just a recommendation... and when you buy that plane with old radios... remember to bring your wallet with you. You have a lot to learn and it looks like you will learn the hard way like most newbies... -----Original Message----- From: MRQB ] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:51 PM To: Subject: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad! Please fully read my ad I have it commented below I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000), Your Asking $15,900 Engine Must Not Exceed TBO, Your airplane has SMOH 1982.25+ Your airplane's engine is Run Out 1,800 TBO Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, Your 150 Is a 1966 Your airplane is worth only about $10,000 to me and that is being generous please dont bother me with your attempts to sell me an airplane that dont meet my needs. ----- Original Message ----- From: "OpenAirNet Classifieds" To: "Steven Rhine" Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:40 AM Subject: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad! Hello Steven! Darrell Reiley has submitted the following inquiry about your classified ad: Customer Message: I just lower the price on my 150, you should reconsider. 15900 with the Garmin 250XL GPS moving map / Com 150 hrs STOH, this will fly you for hundreds of hours easy. Plus low airframe time also. I have flown her over 30 hours since Dec 03. Don't end up with a piece of junk. You can even call the AI that maintains her... Here is your ad: Item: Cessna 150/152 Price: $15,000.00 Posted: 2/21/2004 Description: I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000) for a Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, High Airframe Time Ok, Engine Must Not Exceed TBO, Airplane must be in flying condition, in current annual and have all the logs, No Major Damage & All AD's C/W. Aircraft can be ugly i am not wanting looks. I am just looking for somthing to build time in. I will pay cash upon pick up of airplane (yes I have cash the green paper kind no banks involved). Call me at 1-360-521-8452 to discuss a quick sale I am located in Vancouver, Wa 98662 Please E-mail Photos & Spec's to mrqb@q... Prior to calling.br You can reply to this inquiry from Darrell by either clicking on the following email or hitting reply in your mail browser. Inquirers email: Thanks for using OpenAirNet to sell your classified items! Go flying today! OpenAirNet - Fun Places to Fly! www.OpenAirNet.com www.Fun-Places-To-Fly.com
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March 6th 04, 03:39 PM
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"Dude" writes:
Also, Negotiating stupidly can often have great results. Can you explain a bit more? Sounds interesting.
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#7
March 6th 04, 03:50 PM
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Dude wrote: Also, Negotiating stupidly can often have great results. Can you provide a few details or anecdotes? It hasn't worked very well for me (I'm not the greatest negotiator). George Patterson A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that you look forward to the trip.
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#8
March 6th 04, 05:22 PM
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Well, it all revolves around the assumption that if you have high
expectations, you might not get all, but you may get SOME of what you ask for. Years ago I spotted a Cessna 120 that I wanted for my first plane. It had a lot of shortcomings, but still worth the $3000 being asked. I thought it over and decided to try and get it for $2900. I thought..."I'll offer $2750 and settle for $2900." Then I thought..."Maybe I'll offer $2500 and settle for $2750." Took a test flight with the seller, sat and discussed the plane's strengths and weaknesses, and said I'd like to offer $2500. The owner exploded! "No WAY!" "Wouldn't POSSIBLY consider it!" etc.etc. OK, I responded... what WOULD you consider. Quiet.... then the owner sheepishly offered... $2,600. I kept my best poker face and we concluded the deal. I wouldn't call it negotiating "stupidly"... just keeping all options open. Rich G.R. Patterson III wrote: Dude wrote: Also, Negotiating stupidly can often have great results. Can you provide a few details or anecdotes? It hasn't worked very well for me (I'm not the greatest negotiator). George Patterson A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that you look forward to the trip.
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#9
March 5th 04, 01:20 AM
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I think that YOU are the goofball, not the seller. With your cocky
know-it-all attitude I would lose interest real quick. Who needs nonsense like this from people like you? Just buy the plane if you like it, or learn to read that the price is firm and move on. "MRQB" wrote in message ... The nerve of this guy telling me I have a lot to learn, Looks like this guy needs to learn how to read. This is the second time I have told this guy no it seems like he forgets things or need to go learn the meaning of NO. First he wanted to trade me for my Car I told him no a few months ago. I have looked at airplanes with way better engine times for a lot less looks like he is trying to recover his GPS costs and myself I don't care if I have a GPS that's why we learned how to plot a course and navigate. Goof Balls Airplane Ad http://www.planetraderz.com/details.asp?si=785&li=248 Good luck finding your "pie in the sky"... you must be very new to this airplane business. Add to your wealth of knowledge that 1800 TBO is just a recommendation... and when you buy that plane with old radios... remember to bring your wallet with you. You have a lot to learn and it looks like you will learn the hard way like most newbies... -----Original Message----- From: MRQB ] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 2:51 PM To: Subject: You have an inquiry on your Classified Ad! Please fully read my ad I have it commented below I Will Pay Up To $15,000 Cash (No More Than $15,000), Your Asking $15,900 Engine Must Not Exceed TBO, Your airplane has SMOH 1982.25+ Your airplane's engine is Run Out 1,800 TBO Cessna Airplane If a 150 must be 1972+, Your 150 Is a 1966 Your airplane is worth only about $10,000 to me and that is being generous please dont bother me with your attempts to sell me an airplane that dont meet my needs.
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#10
March 5th 04, 03:16 AM
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"Mike Fitzgerald" wrote in message news:%BQ1c.479441$na.1152093@attbi_s04... I think that YOU are the goofball, not the seller. With your cocky know-it-all attitude I would lose interest real quick. Who needs nonsense like this from people like you? Just buy the plane if you like it, or learn to read that the price is firm and move on. Unfortunately, Fitzgerald's attitude is rather common. No wonder Americans get taken to the cleaners so often.
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