third seatbelt in 172

I'm a new pilot (passed my checkride last Saturday). I have a wife and
three small children (all 6yrs and under).

Weight and balance would be OK to fit three kids in back of a 172, and it
looks like plenty of space (at least while they're young). Is it possible
to get a STC to install a third seatbelt?

If not, is there any other fixed-gear single in a similar price range that
could accomodate 5?

Thanks,

Adam

"The Weiss Family" wrote in message
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I'm a new pilot (passed my checkride last Saturday). I have a wife and
three small children (all 6yrs and under).

Weight and balance would be OK to fit three kids in back of a 172, and it
looks like plenty of space (at least while they're young). Is it possible
to get a STC to install a third seatbelt?

No.



If not, is there any other fixed-gear single in a similar price range that
could accomodate 5?

No. An option is a third childs seat in the baggage area but it's a pretty
bad seat and would allow no luggage to be carried. You're gonna need a 206,
get your checkbook out.

Hard to find, but Cessna 205 is cheaper than 210 or 206.
Charles
"Newps" wrote in message
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"The Weiss Family" wrote in message
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I'm a new pilot (passed my checkride last Saturday). I have a wife and
three small children (all 6yrs and under).

Weight and balance would be OK to fit three kids in back of a 172, and
it
looks like plenty of space (at least while they're young). Is it
possible
to get a STC to install a third seatbelt?

No.



If not, is there any other fixed-gear single in a similar price range
that
could accomodate 5?

No. An option is a third childs seat in the baggage area but it's a
pretty
bad seat and would allow no luggage to be carried. You're gonna need a
206,
get your checkbook out.

"Charles Felton" wrote in message
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Hard to find, but Cessna 205 is cheaper than 210 or 206.

You don't want a 205. Only got 260 hp and has the 182 wing. Weighs more
than a 182. Gets outperformed by a 182. There's a reason they only made
'em for a couple of years.

Newps wrote:

"Charles Felton" wrote in message
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Hard to find, but Cessna 205 is cheaper than 210 or 206.

You don't want a 205. Only got 260 hp and has the 182 wing.

It's a tri-gear version of the 185. Has the 185 wing and engine. Wingspan is 8"
greater than the 182.

Weighs more than a 182.

True.

Gets outperformed by a 182.

It's faster, climbs better, and can haul more than a 182. The 185, on the other hand,
will beat it.

George Patterson
I childproofed my house, but they *still* get in.

The early 182's are used for hauling skydivers and have been approved
for 5 jumpers with a pilot. Thats 6 people in a 182.
I've seen 7 people in a 182 with a 300lb pilot, now thats another story.

The seats have been removed to provide space and reduce weight.
Since the aircraft has been approved for 5 skydivers, you might be able
to get it approved for 5 people as long as you don't go out of the CG
envelope and have seat belts for each passenger.

Dave



G.R. Patterson III wrote:

Newps wrote:

"Charles Felton" wrote in message
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Hard to find, but Cessna 205 is cheaper than 210 or 206.

You don't want a 205. Only got 260 hp and has the 182 wing.


It's a tri-gear version of the 185. Has the 185 wing and engine. Wingspan is 8"
greater than the 182.


Weighs more than a 182.


True.


Gets outperformed by a 182.


It's faster, climbs better, and can haul more than a 182. The 185, on the other hand,
will beat it.

George Patterson
I childproofed my house, but they *still* get in.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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You don't want a 205. Only got 260 hp and has the 182 wing.

It's a tri-gear version of the 185.

They only used the 185 for one year in developing the 205. Then they used
the 210 to make the 205. The 205 is more properly a derivative of a 210, it
is on the 210 type certificate and was built using the same jigs.


Has the 185 wing and engine.

Like I said, 260 hp.



Wingspan is 8"
greater than the 182.

It's the same wing.



Weighs more than a 182.

True.


Gets outperformed by a 182.

It's faster,

It's the same speed or slower. Although we're only talking a few knots.


climbs better,

Climbs worse when at gross. Has to, weighs too damn much. Has worse
takeoff performance, has to, too damn heavy for the power. Same wing as a
182 and only 30 more hp to lift 500-700 more pounds.

Performance kinda close....182 a little better.
Depends if you want the extra 350-450 pounds useable, fuel injection, and
two extra seats in the 205.
Charles

"Newps" wrote in message
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"Charles Felton" wrote in message
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Hard to find, but Cessna 205 is cheaper than 210 or 206.

You don't want a 205. Only got 260 hp and has the 182 wing. Weighs more
than a 182. Gets outperformed by a 182. There's a reason they only made
'em for a couple of years.

The Weiss Family wrote:
I'm a new pilot (passed my checkride last Saturday). I have a wife and
three small children (all 6yrs and under).

Weight and balance would be OK to fit three kids in back of a 172, and it
looks like plenty of space (at least while they're young). Is it possible
to get a STC to install a third seatbelt?

If not, is there any other fixed-gear single in a similar price range that
could accomodate 5?

I'm thinking you're probably buying a plane that will last you a few years.
Those kids aren't going to be 6 forever.

OTOH, if you're newly licensed, I'd suggest waiting a little while to see what
your usage is. It'd be a shame to spend a lot on a huge weight-lifter and then
find out the wife and kids don't enjoy flying.

Get a checkout in a rental 210 or Saratoga, see how it works out, buy what you
need after you've better established your pattern of use.

Dave
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Take daves advice buy an airplane after you have rented for a while i found
out that when i took my wife and my son up togather it caused the devil to
come out in the wife so i purchassed a 150


"Dave Butler" wrote in message
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The Weiss Family wrote:
I'm a new pilot (passed my checkride last Saturday). I have a wife and
three small children (all 6yrs and under).

Weight and balance would be OK to fit three kids in back of a 172, and
it
looks like plenty of space (at least while they're young). Is it
possible
to get a STC to install a third seatbelt?

If not, is there any other fixed-gear single in a similar price range
that
could accomodate 5?

I'm thinking you're probably buying a plane that will last you a few
years.
Those kids aren't going to be 6 forever.

OTOH, if you're newly licensed, I'd suggest waiting a little while to see
what
your usage is. It'd be a shame to spend a lot on a huge weight-lifter and
then
find out the wife and kids don't enjoy flying.

Get a checkout in a rental 210 or Saratoga, see how it works out, buy what
you
need after you've better established your pattern of use.

Dave
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