Flying into Chass B

Do I feel DUMB!

Flying west at 4500 ft I was "fat,dumb and happy" when I noticed I was in a
4000/10000 ft Class B vail. DIVE to get to 2500. I was not on the radio and
chose not to call approach.

I've filed the NASA form. By the way, what does that get me?

Now, I guess, I just wait to see if I will be contacted.

Anybody else been here? What can I expect if contacted?

Chuck

On 28 Oct 2004 16:01:27 GMT, (PaulaJay1) wrote:

I've filed the NASA form. By the way, what does that get me?

Basically one free mistake every five years.



Anybody else been here?

Fotunately, no.

What can I expect if contacted?

Not sure, but keep a copy of your NASA form handy.

How far did you go into the 'B' airspace?

z

PaulaJay1 wrote:
Do I feel DUMB!

Flying west at 4500 ft I was "fat,dumb and happy" when I noticed I was in a
4000/10000 ft Class B vail. DIVE to get to 2500. I was not on the radio and
chose not to call approach.

I've filed the NASA form. By the way, what does that get me?

It gets you protection from being prosecuted (not sure if that's the
right legal word) for your accidental clearance bust, assuming the FAA
were to initiate any action.

Now, I guess, I just wait to see if I will be contacted.

It is unlikely. The Class B controller was undoubtedly watching you
on radar, but all he saw was an anonymous VFR target squawking 1200 (I
assume you had your xponder on). At some point, he saw your altitude
readout zoom down to 2500, mumbled to himself, "That idiot finally
figured out where he was", and got on with his life.

To figure out who you were, he would have had to track you all the way
to your destination and then have somebody there get your N-number.
Unless you did something really exciting, it's highly unlikely he
would have bothered.

Anybody else been here? What can I expect if contacted?

People make mistakes. The key is to admit them (you've taken that
step already) and learn from them. If you were just being lazy and
unattentive, make sure you pay more attention next time. If it was a
navigation error, go find an instructor and brush up on your
navigation skills. If it's airspace you fly in often, go up with
somebody who's more familiar with the area and have them show you some
good landmarks to tell where the CBAS boundary is.

Roy Smith ) wrote:

At some point, he saw your altitude
readout zoom down to 2500, mumbled to himself, "That idiot finally
figured out where he was", and got on with his life.

LOL! Pretty funny imagery there...

--
Peter

In article , (Roy Smith) writes:

It is unlikely. The Class B controller was undoubtedly watching you
on radar, but all he saw was an anonymous VFR target squawking 1200 (I
assume you had your xponder on). At some point, he saw your altitude
readout zoom down to 2500, mumbled to himself, "That idiot finally
figured out where he was", and got on with his life.

To figure out who you were, he would have had to track you all the way
to your destination and then have somebody there get your N-number.
Unless you did something really exciting, it's highly unlikely he
would have bothered.

Unfortunately, my GTX330 reports my N number (why did they do that?).
Maybe I should remove the N number from the report (lock the barn after the
horse.....). No planes were showing on the traffic display so there was no
loss of seperation caused. I was probably in B for a couple of miles at a
slant so I was probably a mile or less closer to the airport.

"PaulaJay1" wrote in message
...
In article , (Roy Smith)
writes:

It is unlikely. The Class B controller was undoubtedly watching you
on radar, but all he saw was an anonymous VFR target squawking 1200 (I
assume you had your xponder on). At some point, he saw your altitude
readout zoom down to 2500, mumbled to himself, "That idiot finally
figured out where he was", and got on with his life.

To figure out who you were, he would have had to track you all the way
to your destination and then have somebody there get your N-number.
Unless you did something really exciting, it's highly unlikely he
would have bothered.


Unfortunately, my GTX330 reports my N number (why did they do that?).
Maybe I should remove the N number from the report (lock the barn after
the
horse.....). No planes were showing on the traffic display so there was
no
loss of seperation caused. I was probably in B for a couple of miles at a
slant so I was probably a mile or less closer to the airport.


Who does your GTX330 report your N number to?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"PaulaJay1" wrote in message
...
In article , (Roy Smith)
writes:

It is unlikely. The Class B controller was undoubtedly watching you
on radar, but all he saw was an anonymous VFR target squawking 1200 (I
assume you had your xponder on). At some point, he saw your altitude
readout zoom down to 2500, mumbled to himself, "That idiot finally
figured out where he was", and got on with his life.

To figure out who you were, he would have had to track you all the way
to your destination and then have somebody there get your N-number.
Unless you did something really exciting, it's highly unlikely he
would have bothered.


Unfortunately, my GTX330 reports my N number (why did they do that?).
Maybe I should remove the N number from the report (lock the barn after
the
horse.....). No planes were showing on the traffic display so there was
no
loss of seperation caused. I was probably in B for a couple of miles at
a
slant so I was probably a mile or less closer to the airport.


Who does your GTX330 report your N number to?

I was sitting at the end of the runway waiting to do a test flight in a
customer's aircraft. He had a MFD hooked up to a Garmin 530 and TCAS.
There were several airplanes in the pattern, the MFD was giving me their "N"
number, squawk code and altitude. A T37 in the pattern only gave out his
altitude and squawk code.

Ain't technology great!

Allen

Allen wrote:


I was sitting at the end of the runway waiting to do a test flight in a
customer's aircraft. He had a MFD hooked up to a Garmin 530 and TCAS.
There were several airplanes in the pattern, the MFD was giving me their "N"
number, squawk code and altitude. A T37 in the pattern only gave out his
altitude and squawk code.

Probably TIS rather than TCAS.

In article . net, "Steven P.
McNicoll" writes:

Who does your GTX330 report your N number to?


I assumed that it is transmitted back with altitude and code. Good question
about it being available to controller. As a controller, what do you know
about it being displayed at your end?

only if the controllers interrogator is set to receive ModeS


"PaulaJay1" wrote in message
...
In article . net, "Steven
P.
McNicoll" writes:

Who does your GTX330 report your N number to?


I assumed that it is transmitted back with altitude and code. Good
question
about it being available to controller. As a controller, what do you know
about it being displayed at your end?