C-150 for photos?

Hi all... wondering if there is anyone out there that could suggest the
best way to remove the passenger window to take photos...

I know about unscrewing the retainer from the window... but just wanted to
know if there are any points to watch out for .. best speed etc...

The plane is not mine..and the flight school wouldn't be too thrilled if

a)I told them what I was planning to do
b) came back with a broken or REALLY scratched side window

Thanks to all,

)


Simon

Simone Canosa wrote:

I know about unscrewing the retainer from the window... but just wanted to
know if there are any points to watch out for .. best speed etc...

It shouldn't give you any problems. When you open the window, hand onto the
latch and open it fully. The airstream will fold it up until it is nearly
touching the bottom of the wing. The aircraft will attempt to turn right, and
you will have to apply nearly full left aileron. The aircraft will also pitch
up a little and require you to adjust the trim. Expect to lose about 5 knots
of airspeed. Make sure that there are no light items (such as charts) loose in
the plane before opening the window. I never tried opening both windows in my
Cessna, but it's possible that this would reduce the amount of rudder pressure
required, with a possible further reduction in speed.

The best camera angle will be shooting forward between the strut and door frame.
Keep the camera inside the plane. If it's not an autofocus (or maybe even if it
is), set the focus on infinity and use it as a point&shoot. It is possible to
crab the plane to get the wing up out of the way for photos, but you don't have
much left rudder available. Plan on no more than half an hour of shooting before
your left leg gives out. I would avoid using lens larger than about 100mm unless
you have one of those gyroscopically stabilized units.

I would recommend using a good camera strap, just in case.

George Patterson
Some people think they hear a call to the priesthood when what they really
hear is a tiny voice whispering "It's indoor work with no heavy lifting".

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It shouldn't give you any problems. When you open the window, hand onto the
latch and open it fully. The airstream will fold it up until it is nearly
touching the bottom of the wing. The aircraft will attempt to turn right, and
you will have to apply nearly full left aileron. The aircraft will also pitch
up a little and require you to adjust the trim. Expect to lose about 5 knots
of airspeed.

I've opened windows in 150/152/172/182 and 206 and never noticed any
roll or need for any aileron and for certain "nearly full" aileron was
not needed. Even with the jump door open on the 182 and 206 rudder or
aileron is not needed. Was something else going on to cause you to need
aileron?

--
Dale L. Falk

There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.

http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html

Same here, fixed wing or swing wing.

PJ

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In article ,
"G.R. Patterson III" wrote:


It shouldn't give you any problems. When you open the window, hand onto
the
latch and open it fully. The airstream will fold it up until it is
nearly
touching the bottom of the wing. The aircraft will attempt to turn
right, and
you will have to apply nearly full left aileron. The aircraft will also
pitch
up a little and require you to adjust the trim. Expect to lose about 5
knots
of airspeed.

I've opened windows in 150/152/172/182 and 206 and never noticed any
roll or need for any aileron and for certain "nearly full" aileron was
not needed. Even with the jump door open on the 182 and 206 rudder or
aileron is not needed. Was something else going on to cause you to need
aileron?

--
Dale L. Falk

There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.

http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html

Dale wrote:

I've opened windows in 150/152/172/182 and 206 and never noticed any
roll or need for any aileron and for certain "nearly full" aileron was
not needed.

You're absolutely correct - that should've been nearly full left *rudder*.

George Patterson
Some people think they hear a call to the priesthood when what they really
hear is a tiny voice whispering "It's indoor work with no heavy lifting".

In article ,
"G.R. Patterson III" wrote:



You're absolutely correct - that should've been nearly full left *rudder*.

I still have the same question. I've never noticed a need for control
input with a window open.

--
Dale L. Falk

There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.

http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html

Dale wrote:

In article ,
"G.R. Patterson III" wrote:

You're absolutely correct - that should've been nearly full left *rudder*.

I still have the same question. I've never noticed a need for control
input with a window open.

I did in my '69 Cessna 150J.

George Patterson
Some people think they hear a call to the priesthood when what they really
hear is a tiny voice whispering "It's indoor work with no heavy lifting".

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
...
The aircraft will attempt to turn right, and
you will have to apply nearly full left aileron. The aircraft will also
pitch
up a little and require you to adjust the trim. Expect to lose about 5
knots
of airspeed.

I haven't had this effect in a 172.

I would avoid using lens larger than about 100mm unless
you have one of those gyroscopically stabilized units.

I went flying last Wednesday after theConcorde flight. I had my
(father's) camcorder with me so I set up the tripod in the back of
the plane. Strange thing. The camera (Sony) has "image
stabilisation", no giros or anything, not sure how it works,
something floating inside the camera or just a digital effect more
likely. Anyway, it's most noticable on taxying. The plane bobs
up and down over the rough ground but the image shows the
horizon as steady with the instrument panel moving up and down.

Saw this fly a wide circle around me, put its wheels down
and set itself up on long final to Boscombe Down as I was
climbing out from Thruxton:
http://www.paulnann.com/images/pn_w1402.jpg

Paul

Hmmm, I was reading about taking pictures from planes and most recommended a
300mm lens..

crab the plane to get the wing up out of the way for photos, but you don't
have
much left rudder available. Plan on no more than half an hour of shooting
before
your left leg gives out. I would avoid using lens larger than about 100mm
unless
you have one of those gyroscopically stabilized units.

Real good idea!

I would recommend using a good camera strap, just in case.

Wayne wrote:

Hmmm, I was reading about taking pictures from planes and most recommended a
300mm lens..

While the focal length is desireable, it's difficult to hold a lens that large
steady in something like a 150. If you opt for the longer lenses, I would also
opt for 400 ASA film and use a fast shutter speed.

George Patterson
Some people think they hear a call to the priesthood when what they really
hear is a tiny voice whispering "It's indoor work with no heavy lifting".