It was 62 years ago today...

The date that shall live in infamy...

A few toasts:

To my Father's generation, for saving the world...

To those of my Father's generation who paid the ultimate price for our
freedom...

To all those of my generation, who as a result were never born...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:

The date that shall live in infamy...

..... was _yesterday_.

George Patterson
Some people think they hear a call to the priesthood when what they really
hear is a tiny voice whispering "It's indoor work with no heavy lifting".

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote:

.... was _yesterday_.

Whoops .... Just noticed that your date posted is in GMT.

George Patterson
Some people think they hear a call to the priesthood when what they really
hear is a tiny voice whispering "It's indoor work with no heavy lifting".

On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 12:25:22 -0500, G.R. Patterson III wrote:

The date that shall live in infamy...

.... was _yesterday_.

what happened? (too lazy to put in on google)

#m
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Let me guess... your history teachers in high school were just like mine,
and always ran into the end of the school year before they got to World War
II, right?

"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
...

what happened? (too lazy to put in on google)

#m

On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 19:34:55 GMT, Geoffrey Barnes wrote:

Let me guess... your history teachers in high school were just like mine,
and always ran into the end of the school year before they got to World War
II, right?

*hmmm* still no clue ... well, *googling* ... oh. Pearl Harbor.
Hm, not that important of a date here in Europe and/but well known in the
US, I assume.

but to answer your question: no, we also came up to the 60s in the last
century.

#m


"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
.. .

what happened? (too lazy to put in on google)

#m



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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 19:34:55 GMT, Geoffrey Barnes wrote:

Let me guess... your history teachers in high school were just like mine,
and always ran into the end of the school year before they got to World
War
II, right?

*hmmm* still no clue ... well, *googling* ... oh. Pearl Harbor.
Hm, not that important of a date here in Europe and/but well known in the
US, I assume.

Concur. My generation in England knew about Pearl Harbor, but would have to
go to the reference books if someone asked us the date. That would then
provoke the usual "late for that war too" comment.

Now, how many American 20-somethings don't know the date?

-- David Brooks

"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 19:34:55 GMT, Geoffrey Barnes wrote:


*hmmm* still no clue ... well, *googling* ... oh. Pearl Harbor.
Hm, not that important of a date here in Europe and/but well known in the
US, I assume.

Come on Martin - I agree with a lot of your posts that accuse the US of a
provinicial world-view, but to say Pearl Harbor was not a date important in
world history is ludicrous. It was the precipitating event that drew the US
into WWII, which, as I remember, had a pretty large effect on Europe. Saying
Pearl Harbor is an unimportant date in European history is like saying the
rise of Nazism was unimportant in US history.

Martin

Would have thought those in Europe would remember as it lead to the US
getting involved in the European conflict and helping to defeat
Germany, Italy, etc.

Big John

How short the memory. You probably would have been speaking German.


On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 20:05:08 GMT, Martin Hotze
wrote:

On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 19:34:55 GMT, Geoffrey Barnes wrote:

Let me guess... your history teachers in high school were just like mine,
and always ran into the end of the school year before they got to World War
II, right?

*hmmm* still no clue ... well, *googling* ... oh. Pearl Harbor.
Hm, not that important of a date here in Europe and/but well known in the
US, I assume.

but to answer your question: no, we also came up to the 60s in the last
century.

#m


"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
. ..

what happened? (too lazy to put in on google)

#m

On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 19:28:05 GMT, Martin Hotze
wrote:

what happened? (too lazy to put in on google)

!!!!!!

Aside from 11 Sep 2001, 7 Dec 1941 counts as the largest-casualty
surprise attack on United States soil in all its history.

Almost 3000 people died when the Japanese, who (I'm told) thought that
a preemptive attack would cow the U.S., sank a goodly portion of the
fleet based at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, which shook the U.S. out of
protectionism and brought it into the second World War.

(Y'know, that tiny thing Germans don't study anymore?)

In short, the chain of events which freed Austria from Naziism started
that day, Martin.

Rob