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Old August 30th 12, 02:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dave Nadler
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Hi All - I'm looking for recommendations for a
wing-dolly for solo assembly of the Duo Discus.
The one we have has broken for the umpteenth time.

I am very spoiled with the Lange unit that I
always use for self-assembly of my Antares 20E.
It is quick, easy, sturdy, and includes a gas-
strut to allow one-hand height adjustment (gas
spring matches weight of wing, with a lock that
is unlatched and re-latched with one's toe).
Unlike many rigging aids:
* It does not fall over while I pull the wing
out of the trailer.
* It rolls easily over uneven ground.
* It takes one hand to adjust the height, and I
do not have to crawl under the wing to adjust
the height.
* It does not lean dangerously.
* It does not damage the wing.
* It has no loose parts (two pieces in trailer)
* It requires no power
* It does not require extensive training to operate

I'm hoping to find something similarly easy
for our Duo. Any recommendations ?
Especially FIRST HAND experience from REGULAR use ?

Note that the Duo wing is HEAVY and HIGH OFF
THE GROUND. Very different from a 15m wing...

Thanks in advance,
Best Regards, Dave "YO electric"
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Old August 30th 12, 04:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Mike the Strike
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On Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:48:49 AM UTC-7, Dave Nadler wrote:
Hi All - I'm looking for recommendations for a

wing-dolly for solo assembly of the Duo Discus.

The one we have has broken for the umpteenth time.



I am very spoiled with the Lange unit that I

always use for self-assembly of my Antares 20E.

It is quick, easy, sturdy, and includes a gas-

strut to allow one-hand height adjustment (gas

spring matches weight of wing, with a lock that

is unlatched and re-latched with one's toe).

Unlike many rigging aids:

* It does not fall over while I pull the wing

out of the trailer.

* It rolls easily over uneven ground.

* It takes one hand to adjust the height, and I

do not have to crawl under the wing to adjust

the height.

* It does not lean dangerously.

* It does not damage the wing.

* It has no loose parts (two pieces in trailer)

* It requires no power

* It does not require extensive training to operate



I'm hoping to find something similarly easy

for our Duo. Any recommendations ?

Especially FIRST HAND experience from REGULAR use ?



Note that the Duo wing is HEAVY and HIGH OFF

THE GROUND. Very different from a 15m wing...



Thanks in advance,

Best Regards, Dave "YO electric"


Dave:

Not sure that you'll be able to meet all those requirements, but I suggest you talk to Steve Koerner who manufactures the WingRigger here in Arizona. There are probably more of these in use in the USA than any others, so he must be doing something right!

Mike
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Old August 30th 12, 05:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Wing-support for Duo one-person assembly

John Earlywine

I have similar issues with the DG-1000.

Mark Mocho where are you? Are you listening?

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Old August 30th 12, 06:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Steve Leonard[_2_]
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Dave,

Are the wings comparable in weight? Make a Duo Cuff for your Antares rigger.

Just a thought

Steve
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Old August 31st 12, 10:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Nadler View Post
Hi All - I'm looking for recommendations for a
wing-dolly for solo assembly of the Duo Discus.
Hi Dave,

we have been using the wing dolly by IMI-Gliding (www.imi-gliding.com) for some time. Some mates from my club are using theirs also for a Janus and an Arcus M. They have modified it with bigger wheels for better stability. It also works with a gas spring which you fix with a screw.

We have also tested Cobra's wing dolly but found it to be to unstable.

However, we are always two when rigging the duo, it just takes too long alone.

Bye, Helge
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Old September 2nd 12, 06:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Hi Dave,

I have played around with the Wingrigger for single place ships with my Duo.. Steve makes an XC (extended chord) model for bigger ships. The single place model fit the Duo quite well, but needed a longer clamp, only about 5" more though. The XC model would be what I'd buy. Sturdy and well designed. Plenty of spring strength for the Duo wing and height as well.

I haven't bought one yet, but given the weight I am considering it. If only to help my wingtip person with the weight. Given the height at the tip, it's always awkward to transition from the low to high position.

Morgan
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Old September 2nd 12, 08:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I have the IMI-Gliding one man rigger for my Ventus cM, and it works fine. I frequently use the same device for the outboard wings of an ASH25 (no modifications) with no problems. The wings of the ASH are 85 kg and lighter than those of a Duo, but then my rigger aid is the one for single seaters. Nice stuff.
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Old September 2nd 12, 06:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Did anyone buy Udo's tooling and leftover parts? Seems he wanted very little for the lot. YO it was in "your neck of the woods" too.
Jim
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Old September 2nd 12, 07:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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When you lift the tip of the main wing panel to pull it out of the trailer, how many pounds are you lifting?

And what is the total piece weight of the DD inboard wing panel?
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Old September 2nd 12, 09:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Hi Dave!

I use the IMI single-seater for my Antares, In teh club we use the IMI double-seater version for the Arcus. I prefer the IMI over the Lange.

Have Fun

Hans


Am Donnerstag, 30. August 2012 15:48:49 UTC+2 schrieb Dave Nadler:
Hi All - I'm looking for recommendations for a

wing-dolly for solo assembly of the Duo Discus.

The one we have has broken for the umpteenth time.



I am very spoiled with the Lange unit that I

always use for self-assembly of my Antares 20E.

It is quick, easy, sturdy, and includes a gas-

strut to allow one-hand height adjustment (gas

spring matches weight of wing, with a lock that

is unlatched and re-latched with one's toe).

Unlike many rigging aids:

* It does not fall over while I pull the wing

out of the trailer.

* It rolls easily over uneven ground.

* It takes one hand to adjust the height, and I

do not have to crawl under the wing to adjust

the height.

* It does not lean dangerously.

* It does not damage the wing.

* It has no loose parts (two pieces in trailer)

* It requires no power

* It does not require extensive training to operate



I'm hoping to find something similarly easy

for our Duo. Any recommendations ?

Especially FIRST HAND experience from REGULAR use ?



Note that the Duo wing is HEAVY and HIGH OFF

THE GROUND. Very different from a 15m wing...



Thanks in advance,

Best Regards, Dave "YO electric"


 




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