Insurance discount for Flarm?

I read on the Flarm forum that Canadian pilots get 5% discount on their insurance rates if Flarm is installed.
I wonder if any attempt was made by SSA to negotiate similar deal with Costello?

Ramy

On Monday, March 11, 2013 12:09:50 AM UTC-4, Ramy wrote:
I read on the Flarm forum that Canadian pilots get 5% discount on their insurance rates if Flarm is installed. I wonder if any attempt was made by SSA to negotiate similar deal with Costello? Ramy

There was and the response was that mid air collisions are so few that they do not show up on the underwriters radar so no discount would be forthcoming.
UH

On Monday, March 11, 2013 8:46:15 AM UTC-4, wrote:
There was and the response was that mid air collisions are so few that they do not show up on the underwriters radar so no discount would be forthcoming.

We had two fatalities due to a mid-air in British Columbia last year. This was statistically a big loss in the year given our small market so the insurer was receptive to the idea. Overall, mid-airs remain extremely rare in Canada.

We had two fatalities due to a mid-air in British Columbia last year.

Correction ... in 2011.

Glider insurance companies in America need to wake up and get real.

10,000 hours of flight time in powered aircraft won't even get you a penny less on your premiums!

A private glider pilot with 100 hours of total time in gliders pays the same insurance as a 40,000 hour power pilot who has 100 hours in gliders.

FLARM should give a big discount. I used one last Saturday on the Seniors practice day and found it to increase safety tremendously.

On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 3:34:17 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Glider insurance companies in America need to wake up and get real. 10,000 hours of flight time in powered aircraft won't even get you a penny less on your premiums! A private glider pilot with 100 hours of total time in gliders pays the same insurance as a 40,000 hour power pilot who has 100 hours in gliders. FLARM should give a big discount. I used one last Saturday on the Seniors practice day and found it to increase safety tremendously.

my guess is their actuarial tables have shown that high time in airplanes does not correlate to increased safety in a glider. my experience as a CFI-G would tend to agree with that.

they are probably waiting to see a statistical correlation to show that FLARM use reduces the risk of a major loss for the insurance company.

On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 3:34:17 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Glider insurance companies in America need to wake up and get real.

Actually, the vast majority of glider accidents in the US involve unintended contact with the ground. Now if only someone would invent an instrument that would tell the pilot how high up he is, so he would know to become more careful near the ground, that would surely be worth a big insurance discount

BB

On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 1:40:10 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 3:34:17 PM UTC-5, wrote:

Glider insurance companies in America need to wake up and get real.



Actually, the vast majority of glider accidents in the US involve unintended contact with the ground. Now if only someone would invent an instrument that would tell the pilot how high up he is, so he would know to become more careful near the ground, that would surely be worth a big insurance discount



BB

As someone here once said; "stay in the middle of the sky. don't go near the edges..."

On Mar 12, 1:40*pm, wrote:
On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 3:34:17 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Glider insurance companies in America need to wake up and get real.

Actually, the vast majority of glider accidents in the US involve unintended contact with the ground. Now if only someone would invent an instrument that would tell the pilot how high up he is, so he would know to become more careful near the ground, that would surely be worth a big insurance discount

BB

Such an instrument would surely be disallowed in soaring competitions.

On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 6:22:12 PM UTC-4, Liam wrote:
On Mar 12, 1:40*pm, wrote:

On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 3:34:17 PM UTC-5, wrote:

Glider insurance companies in America need to wake up and get real.



Actually, the vast majority of glider accidents in the US involve unintended contact with the ground. Now if only someone would invent an instrument that would tell the pilot how high up he is, so he would know to become more careful near the ground, that would surely be worth a big insurance discount



BB



Such an instrument would surely be disallowed in soaring competitions.

It's really tempting to flag this as "abuse".

T8