Received my first speed restriction

Yesterday, while wrapping up my complex, high performance instruction in a
Bonanza V35, I received my first speed restriction from ATC during the
approach back into the class C airport. "Bonanza XX, do not exceed 150,
number two following a Dash 8, cleared ILS 28 approach."

After a little more than two years of receiving "maintain best speed" in
the 172, this was a pleasant contrast.

On the ground, the instructor signed his name under the complex, high-
performance endorsement, a little more than 12 hours of instruction later.


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Peter, if you haven't already purchased it, I highly recommend you
obtain a copy of John Eckalbar's FLYING THE BONANZA book.
There are many things I learned that I did not know nor was I made aware
of during my checkout.
Regards, Eric

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:28:58 GMT, john smith wrote in
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Peter, if you haven't already purchased it, I highly recommend you
obtain a copy of John Eckalbar's FLYING THE BONANZA book.
There are many things I learned that I did not know nor was I made aware
of during my checkout.
Regards, Eric

It must be good; they're not givin' it away:
http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?ac... 5461_2:33:73

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:28:58 GMT, john smith wrote in
Message-Id: :

Peter, if you haven't already purchased it, I highly recommend you
obtain a copy of John Eckalbar's FLYING THE BONANZA book.
There are many things I learned that I did not know nor was I made aware
of during my checkout.
Regards, Eric

It must be good; they're not givin' it away:

http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?ac...JOYV4lfQoGQYRk
_2001195461_2:33:73


They figure if you can afford to fly a Bo you can afford to pay $70.00 for a
book.

Gig G

Gig Giacona wrote:

They figure if you can afford to fly a Bo you can afford to pay $70.00
for a book.

Reminds me of college book prices.


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"Peter R."
Yesterday, while wrapping up my complex, high performance instruction in a
Bonanza V35, I received my first speed restriction from ATC during the
approach back into the class C airport. "Bonanza XX, do not exceed 150,
number two following a Dash 8, cleared ILS 28 approach."

Congrats!

My one and only speed restriction (at HPN) went like this "Maule, how slow
can you go?", "80 knots", "...reduce speed to 80 knots, your number 2 behind
blah blah". What a mess. I did it but it didn't matter... got a missed
approach on short final.

The controller appeared to be handling, or perhaps coordinating a lot of
traffic with other controllers. In any case, he was using speed changes and
restrictions to manage it instead of vectors. Problem was that my
groundspeed varied about 30 knots throughout the approach. I'm sure that
everyones elses did too. Embedded, low energy cells seem to alternately
cause headwinds and tailwinds. No way that airspeed management would work
on such a day.

The 'Bo sounds nice. Hope to get the chance one day.

Maule Driver wrote:

My one and only speed restriction (at HPN) went like this "Maule, how slow
can you go?", "80 knots"

Years ago, I was flying a practice ILS 32 in VMC at CYOW in our
Maule:

http://www.pittspecials.com/images/maule.jpg

and I was asked by ATC for "minimum speed" after glideslope intercept.
It was a neat exercise to keep the needles centered under the hood during
the airspeed reduction to 50 mph ias.

I was grinning away because a cold front had passed, and the wind out
of the northwest gave me a nice headwind, so my groundspeed (knots)
was in the high teens, which is probably not something ATC sees every
day on the ILS ... but they did ask for "minimum speed", didn't they? :-)

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ATP http://www.pittspecials.com/images/oz_down.jpg

"Andrew Boyd"
Years ago, I was flying a practice ILS 32 in VMC at CYOW in our
Maule:
http://www.pittspecials.com/images/maule.jpg

That's the nicest pic of an (older) Maule that I've ever seen. Nice lines
on a nice ship! Looks like you've moved on to a Pitts...

and I was asked by ATC for "minimum speed" after glideslope intercept.
It was a neat exercise to keep the needles centered under the hood during
the airspeed reduction to 50 mph ias.

I was grinning away because a cold front had passed, and the wind out
of the northwest gave me a nice headwind, so my groundspeed (knots)
was in the high teens, which is probably not something ATC sees every
day on the ILS ... but they did ask for "minimum speed", didn't they? :-)

Yep, they did. The ironic thing is that with the negative or reflex flaps
on my Maule, the easiest way to fly an ILS is to speed up. I don't know if
your Maule had a negative setting but my normal ILS procedure is to fly
cruise or slow cruise until GS intercept, then select negative flaps.
Depending on the RPMs, I get a 600ft/min descent with a touch of up trim at
115 to 125 knots. Fits into traffic real well.

The 80knots would have been a good exercise except that I was almost airsick
from the turbulence. Man, did I want to be on the ground.

In a previous article, Peter R. said:
approach back into the class C airport. "Bonanza XX, do not exceed 150,
number two following a Dash 8, cleared ILS 28 approach."

Gee, and I thought it was cool when I was being vectored to the runway at
one airport in the flying club's new PA28-236 Dakota and got told "you're
going 40 knots faster than the 172 ahead of you. Slow it down." Heh,
take that Cessna!


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Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
Last I checked, it wasn't the power cord for the Clue Generator
that was sticking up your ass.
-- John Novak

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:07:39 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote in Message-Id: :

...PA28-236 Dakota and got told "you're
going 40 knots faster than the 172 ahead of you. Slow it down." Heh,
take that Cessna!

With 47% more horsepower, I would hope you'd be faster.