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Old November 8th 04, 09:26 PM
Len
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Default Crop duster missing

Not trying to be alarmist, just thinking that all of us GA folks can
keep an eye out for something odd-

http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/advisory.pdf

Len
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Old November 9th 04, 06:13 AM
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"Len" wrote in message
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Not trying to be alarmist, just thinking that all of us GA folks can
keep an eye out for something odd-

http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/advisory.pdf

Len
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Install hidden security switches to prevent unauthorized startup of
aircraft???? how could you hide a switch on an airplane wouldn't you need a
337 and a description on the switch ware it's going to be placed?


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Old November 9th 04, 06:12 AM
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sure.. I think you would... but that would be buried in the aircraft maint
logs..
I don't think the thief pilot would know where to look...

also remember this is TSA... they do not know anything about aircraft..
maint requirements or paper work... look at the fiasco they just unleashed
with 49CFR1552

They are still writing waivers and interpretations on what they really meant
to cover.

BT

"NW_PILOT" wrote in message
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"Len" wrote in message
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Not trying to be alarmist, just thinking that all of us GA folks can
keep an eye out for something odd-

http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/advisory.pdf

Len
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Install hidden security switches to prevent unauthorized startup of
aircraft???? how could you hide a switch on an airplane wouldn't you need
a
337 and a description on the switch ware it's going to be placed?




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Old November 9th 04, 03:11 PM
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BTIZ wrote:

sure.. I think you would... but that would be buried in the aircraft maint
logs..
I don't think the thief pilot would know where to look...


Of course they would, 'cause the FAA would require that you install a large red
placard telling you to turn it on before flight.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.
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Old November 9th 04, 03:32 PM
Jay Masino
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BTIZ wrote:
also remember this is TSA... they do not know anything about aircraft..
maint requirements or paper work... look at the fiasco they just unleashed
with 49CFR1552


I guess they don't know anything about cutting the P-leads and hand
propping, either.



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Old November 9th 04, 04:03 PM
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Jay Masino wrote:

I guess they don't know anything about cutting the P-leads and hand
propping, either.


I really doubt that that's an issue on the Pawnee. Or most of the other aircraft with
which the TSA is concerned.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.
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Old November 9th 04, 05:00 PM
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G.R. Patterson III wrote:

I really doubt that that's an issue on the Pawnee. Or most of the other
aircraft with which the TSA is concerned.


Yea. Of course, it's sometimes hard to tell which are the "aircraft with
which the TSA is concerned"


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Old November 9th 04, 07:27 PM
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"NW_PILOT" wrote in message ...
"Len" wrote in message
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Not trying to be alarmist, just thinking that all of us GA folks can
keep an eye out for something odd-

http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/advisory.pdf

Len
PP-SEL


Install hidden security switches to prevent unauthorized startup of
aircraft???? how could you hide a switch on an airplane wouldn't you need a
337 and a description on the switch ware it's going to be placed?


and immediately falls apart when some-one does a conversion onto that machine.
Remember the ground switch on the PA22 ??????
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Old November 11th 04, 12:25 AM
SelwayKid
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"NW_PILOT" wrote in message ...
"Len" wrote in message
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Not trying to be alarmist, just thinking that all of us GA folks can
keep an eye out for something odd-

http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/advisory.pdf

Len
PP-SEL


Install hidden security switches to prevent unauthorized startup of
aircraft???? how could you hide a switch on an airplane wouldn't you need a
337 and a description on the switch ware it's going to be placed?


Yes a 337 is required but only the local FAA office has the info as to
the location. Most aerial application aircraft don't require a key to
either get into, or to start. Hidden master switches are quite common
now and especially for the expensive turbine aircraft. Pretty easy to
get in for a million dollars on the newer turbine spray planes.
For the most part security on spray aircraft is pretty tight in that
they are normally on a private strip and strangers stick out like a
sore thumb. A spray plane is not attractive to smugglers because of
its low speed and limited fuel. Most of them get stolen for the
component parts like engine, GPS, SATLOC,or perhaps particular parts
like wings, etc.
In nearly 40 years of crop dusting/spraying worldwide I don't recall
hearing of more than a couple spray planes ever being stolen.
Helicopters are a different story....
Ol Shy & Bashful
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Old November 9th 04, 01:51 PM
CV
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Len wrote:
Not trying to be alarmist, just thinking that all of us GA folks can
keep an eye out for something odd-

http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/advisory.pdf


The aircraft in the picture doesn't quite look like a Pawnee
to me. Is the picture flattened out a bit perhaps or is it
really some other model ?

CV

 




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