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November 19th 04, 12:17 PM
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A Q (another) only a non-aviator can ask :)
Is it possible to land without using the flaps at all? Just a
combination of the throttle (forward thrust too, perhaps?), elevator and ailerons... I know this will sound like a shocker but I'd appreciate a definitive NO, so that at least one doubt is bedded  Ramapriya 
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#2
November 19th 04, 01:00 PM
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Is it possible to land without using the flaps at all? Just a
combination of the throttle (forward thrust too, perhaps?), elevator and ailerons... I know this will sound like a shocker but I'd appreciate a definitive NO, so that at least one doubt is bedded Sorry, but the answer is an easy "yes"... In fact, every student practices no-flap landings as part of basic flight training. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination"
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#3
November 20th 04, 01:45 AM
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Jay,
they practice it all the way up to the 747.... Jay Honeck wrote: Is it possible to land without using the flaps at all? Just a combination of the throttle (forward thrust too, perhaps?), elevator and ailerons... I know this will sound like a shocker but I'd appreciate a definitive NO, so that at least one doubt is bedded Sorry, but the answer is an easy "yes"... In fact, every student practices no-flap landings as part of basic flight training. -- Michelle P ATP-ASEL, CP-AMEL, and AMT-A&P "Elisabeth" a Maule M-7-235B (no two are alike) Volunteer Pilot, Angel Flight Mid-Atlantic Volunteer Builder, Habitat for Humanity
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#4
November 20th 04, 02:02 AM
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even in B-1s, just add 50knots or more to the normal approach speed.
BT "Michelle P" wrote in message ink.net... Jay, they practice it all the way up to the 747.... Jay Honeck wrote: Is it possible to land without using the flaps at all? Just a combination of the throttle (forward thrust too, perhaps?), elevator and ailerons... I know this will sound like a shocker but I'd appreciate a definitive NO, so that at least one doubt is bedded Sorry, but the answer is an easy "yes"... In fact, every student practices no-flap landings as part of basic flight training. -- Michelle P ATP-ASEL, CP-AMEL, and AMT-A&P "Elisabeth" a Maule M-7-235B (no two are alike) Volunteer Pilot, Angel Flight Mid-Atlantic Volunteer Builder, Habitat for Humanity
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#5
November 20th 04, 11:25 PM
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 01:45:04 GMT, Michelle P
wrote: Jay, they practice it all the way up to the 747.... I do it at least once a month in the Deb. It adds about 10 MPH over the fence and about 1500 feet to the landing. That and the nose is so high at touchdown you can only see the airport out the side windows. Then about the only sight of the runway are the edge lights unless it's a wide runway. :-)) Nothing but sky through the windshield. I would add, that although the touchdown is faster it sure is smooth. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com Jay Honeck wrote: Is it possible to land without using the flaps at all? Just a combination of the throttle (forward thrust too, perhaps?), elevator and ailerons... I know this will sound like a shocker but I'd appreciate a definitive NO, so that at least one doubt is bedded Sorry, but the answer is an easy "yes"... In fact, every student practices no-flap landings as part of basic flight training.
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#6
November 20th 04, 02:11 AM
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Really...... I never did.
***feeling like I'be been cheated*** "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:F7mnd.427193$D%.87002@attbi_s51... Is it possible to land without using the flaps at all? Just a combination of the throttle (forward thrust too, perhaps?), elevator and ailerons... I know this will sound like a shocker but I'd appreciate a definitive NO, so that at least one doubt is bedded Sorry, but the answer is an easy "yes"... In fact, every student practices no-flap landings as part of basic flight training. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination"
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#7
November 21st 04, 02:07 AM
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Really...... I never did.
***feeling like I'be been cheated*** You *never* practiced no-flaps landings? Wow -- how long ago did you learn to fly? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination"
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#8
November 19th 04, 01:08 PM
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Some aircraft do not have any flaps, so, yes, you can land without them...
"Ramapriya" wrote in message om... Is it possible to land without using the flaps at all? Just a combination of the throttle (forward thrust too, perhaps?), elevator and ailerons... I know this will sound like a shocker but I'd appreciate a definitive NO, so that at least one doubt is bedded Ramapriya
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#9
November 19th 04, 03:21 PM
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Sometimes it's best to land without flaps.
In my particular a/c, landings with *negative* flaps are advised. You don't want to go there. "Ramapriya" wrote in message om... Is it possible to land without using the flaps at all? Just a combination of the throttle (forward thrust too, perhaps?), elevator and ailerons... I know this will sound like a shocker but I'd appreciate a definitive NO, so that at least one doubt is bedded Ramapriya
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#10
November 19th 04, 03:32 PM
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I've seen "negative flaps" mentioned on spec sheets before.
A guess would be flaps extending upward and killing lift necessitated by the STOL nature of the aircraft. Am I even close? "Maule Driver" wrote in message m... Sometimes it's best to land without flaps. In my particular a/c, landings with *negative* flaps are advised. You don't want to go there. "Ramapriya" wrote in message om... Is it possible to land without using the flaps at all? Just a combination of the throttle (forward thrust too, perhaps?), elevator and ailerons... I know this will sound like a shocker but I'd appreciate a definitive NO, so that at least one doubt is bedded Ramapriya
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