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I just read the procedures handbooks for two different Angel Flight
organizations and noticed that one recommends the call sign "Compassion" and filing flight plans with the identifier "CMFxxx" and the other, "Angel Flight" and the identifier "NGFxxx." Having heard "Angel Flight xxx" for years I was surprised to learn the "Compassion" term apparently has been around since 1999. Neither seems to be mentioned in the AIM; "Lifeguard" is, but that is a different operation (air ambulance). Any particular reason for multiple terms other than different organizations marching to different (possibly politically correct) drummers? |
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I'm in Angel Flight Central. I've only done one flight so far, but I used
"Angel Flight" as my call sign. I didn't mess with the NGF before my tail number. I just filed N1234 and put in the comments I was an Angel Flight. On the radio, ATC called my "Angel Flight 234...". There's another group called Lifeline pilots based out of Peoria, I think. Maybe they use "Compassion". Not sure. "Doug Carter" wrote in message om... I just read the procedures handbooks for two different Angel Flight organizations and noticed that one recommends the call sign "Compassion" and filing flight plans with the identifier "CMFxxx" and the other, "Angel Flight" and the identifier "NGFxxx." Having heard "Angel Flight xxx" for years I was surprised to learn the "Compassion" term apparently has been around since 1999. Neither seems to be mentioned in the AIM; "Lifeguard" is, but that is a different operation (air ambulance). Any particular reason for multiple terms other than different organizations marching to different (possibly politically correct) drummers? |
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I'm with Angel Flight NE, and I use "Angel Flight" as my call sign, file IFR
using "NGF 6SR" instead of "N466SR" . www.Rosspilot.com |
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Rosspilot wrote:
I'm with Angel Flight NE, and I use "Angel Flight" as my call sign, file IFR using "NGF 6SR" instead of "N466SR" . AOL Me, too. /AOL -- Peter |
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Doug,
Since the was Airlifeline, Angel Flight Mid-atlantic, Southest, West, Lifeline pilots..... They all used different Call signs or none at all. The organizations got together in late 1990s and decided since they had a common mission they needed a common call sign. They applied for and received the Compassion (CMF) call sign. This way all of us doing the same thing are identified the same to ATC. LifeGuard is for air medical ambulance only. Michelle Doug Carter wrote: I just read the procedures handbooks for two different Angel Flight organizations and noticed that one recommends the call sign "Compassion" and filing flight plans with the identifier "CMFxxx" and the other, "Angel Flight" and the identifier "NGFxxx." Having heard "Angel Flight xxx" for years I was surprised to learn the "Compassion" term apparently has been around since 1999. Neither seems to be mentioned in the AIM; "Lifeguard" is, but that is a different operation (air ambulance). Any particular reason for multiple terms other than different organizations marching to different (possibly politically correct) drummers? |
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Michelle P wrote:
Doug, Since the was Airlifeline, Angel Flight Mid-atlantic, Southest, West, Lifeline pilots..... They all used different Call signs or none at all. The organizations got together in late 1990s... I did some more searching and found that the "Air Care Alliance" got the FAA to accept the "Compassion" call sign in May of 1999 (see: http://www.aircareall.org/callsign.htm#cmpsn-procedures) and that "Angel Flight" got the FAA to assign the "Angel Flight America" call sign in June, 2000 (see: http://www.angelflightsc.org/NGFcallsign.html). Somewhat confusing... I noticed that "Angel Flight, Inc." uses "Compassion" instead of "Angel Flight." Apparently its just different organizations doing their own thing; all for a good cause though! |
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Doug Carter wrote:
Michelle P wrote: Doug, Since the was Airlifeline, Angel Flight Mid-atlantic, Southest, West, Lifeline pilots..... They all used different Call signs or none at all. The organizations got together in late 1990s... I did some more searching and found that the "Air Care Alliance" got the FAA to accept the "Compassion" call sign in May of 1999 (see: http://www.aircareall.org/callsign.htm#cmpsn-procedures) Wow it looks like the author of that letter didn't read his own letter. First it describes what three letter designators are required for, and then it claims that American Airlines would file AA 1234 for its flight 1234 and British Airways would file BA for its flight 4321. Actually they would file AAL1234 and BAW4321 respectively. Those two letter codes are IATA's and used for passenger scheduling, ticketing, etc, not for flight plans. |
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![]() Jen wrote: Doug Carter wrote: Michelle P wrote: Doug, Since the was Airlifeline, Angel Flight Mid-atlantic, Southest, West, Lifeline pilots..... They all used different Call signs or none at all. The organizations got together in late 1990s... I did some more searching and found that the "Air Care Alliance" got the FAA to accept the "Compassion" call sign in May of 1999 (see: http://www.aircareall.org/callsign.htm#cmpsn-procedures) Wow it looks like the author of that letter didn't read his own letter. First it describes what three letter designators are required for, and then it claims that American Airlines would file AA 1234 for its flight 1234 and British Airways would file BA for its flight 4321. Actually they would file AAL1234 and BAW4321 respectively. Those two letter codes are IATA's and used for passenger scheduling, ticketing, etc, not for flight plans. The two letter code was used up until the mid 80's, that's how long it's been since that part of the book has been updated. |
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![]() "Michelle P" wrote: Since the was Airlifeline, Angel Flight Mid-atlantic, Southest, West, Lifeline pilots..... They all used different Call signs or none at all. The organizations got together in late 1990s and decided since they had a common mission they needed a common call sign. They applied for and received the Compassion (CMF) call sign. This way all of us doing the same thing are identified the same to ATC. AF Southeast says "Angel Flight" and files NGF + last 3 digits of tail number. -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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Doug,
I started using Compassion Flight etc and changing my 'N-number'. I was getting questioned so much by ATC, that I figured it wasn't worth it. So, now I just use my N-number, but if I need 'special attention' I add, "...and we're an Angel Flight today". Occasionally I also add "...and we have a really cute girl in the back who can't wait to get home" (or something similar). FWIW: That works like a charm, from jumping to #1 from #7 at PAO, to flying the PAO approach with no delay (in IMC) etc. But while getting handed off on a long XC, I just use my N-number. Hilton |
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