absolute beginer

Sorry folks - please bear with me.

I love to fly (as a passenger) but am keen to 'get my hands on the
controls'.

Where do I start?

MS Flight Sim?

What 'joystick' and 'foot pedals'?

Your guidance will be very much appreciated.

Thanks group.

Hi Jack,
I recommend logging onto

alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim

for more detailed discussions and help on FS 2004. It is also a very amusing
and supportive group of people similar to this group.

"Cousin Jack Newquay" wrote in message
...
Sorry folks - please bear with me.

I love to fly (as a passenger) but am keen to 'get my hands on the
controls'.

Where do I start?

MS Flight Sim?

What 'joystick' and 'foot pedals'?

Your guidance will be very much appreciated.

Thanks group.

Just saw your post and had to smile. I'm sure others will give you ample
help with the specifics of your question, so I'll let them so that.
What made me smile was the thought of what I've spent so far on this
nice little past time since I retired. I believe I'm safe in saying that
at this point in time, over a span of 3 versions of MSFS, I have now
invested in hardware and peripherals about 10,000 dollars.
So be careful. If you're married, be VERY careful....or you could very
well end up just like me looking for the answer to the most oft asked
question by wives to husbands they thought were at least marginally
smart people when they decided to marry them.
My wife asks, "So tell me again once more will you......you spent HOW
much on the stuff to run this fifty dollar flight simulator????????"
:-)))
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
For personal email, please replace
the z's with e's.
dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt

Yeah I never thought of it that way. How much to run this little $50.00 flight sim(s)? Very good timing as I'm
buying a new computer next week just to get those few extra FPS and better realism. Though I justified it with the
excuse that I need to start doing some client server work again I really only need a low end server for about 1/2 the
price since my current machine is more than adequate. And did I really need to spec 500GB of hard disk space? Well
maybe the dual proc will be useful running SQL server but I can't imagine I really need it for dev work. Hum better buy
the machine quick before I realize I don't really need it.

--
....Carl Frisk
Anger is a brief madness.
- Horace, 20 B.C.
http://www.carlfrisk.com


"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message k.net...

"Cousin Jack Newquay" wrote in message
...
Sorry folks - please bear with me.

I love to fly (as a passenger) but am keen to 'get my hands on the
controls'.

Where do I start?

MS Flight Sim?

What 'joystick' and 'foot pedals'?

Your guidance will be very much appreciated.

Thanks group.

Just saw your post and had to smile. I'm sure others will give you ample
help with the specifics of your question, so I'll let them so that.
What made me smile was the thought of what I've spent so far on this
nice little past time since I retired. I believe I'm safe in saying that
at this point in time, over a span of 3 versions of MSFS, I have now
invested in hardware and peripherals about 10,000 dollars.
So be careful. If you're married, be VERY careful....or you could very
well end up just like me looking for the answer to the most oft asked
question by wives to husbands they thought were at least marginally
smart people when they decided to marry them.
My wife asks, "So tell me again once more will you......you spent HOW
much on the stuff to run this fifty dollar flight simulator????????"
:-)))
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
For personal email, please replace
the z's with e's.
dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt

Carl Frisk wrote:

Yeah I never thought of it that way. How much to run this little $50.00 flight sim(s)? Very good timing as I'm
buying a new computer next week just to get those few extra FPS and better realism. Though I justified it with the
excuse that I need to start doing some client server work again I really only need a low end server for about 1/2 the
price since my current machine is more than adequate. And did I really need to spec 500GB of hard disk space? Well
maybe the dual proc will be useful running SQL server but I can't imagine I really need it for dev work. Hum better buy
the machine quick before I realize I don't really need it.

LOL

--


boB

The Roaming Gnome
Don't Forget Your Hat

Flying FS2002/4 in Texas

P4
2.66G
512 Ram
Ti4200-128
__________________________________________________ _______________________
Bob, Gabriella, Kuma, Chica, Balto, Blitz, Gussie, Costa and Tiger
Kempner, Central Texas
__________________________________________________ _______________________

On Wed, 12 May 2004 21:35:42 +0000 (UTC), "Cousin Jack Newquay"
wrote:

Sorry folks - please bear with me.

I love to fly (as a passenger) but am keen to 'get my hands on the
controls'.

Where do I start?

MS Flight Sim?

What 'joystick' and 'foot pedals'?

Your guidance will be very much appreciated.

Thanks group.



Cousin Jack,

I fly real planes and the simulator. I'm a relatively new, low time
pilot in the real stuff but I started flying Flight Simulator when it
was Sub-Logic (before MS bought it). I though that Atari 800 was
pretty slick stuff back then.

Here's the bottom line. Flight Simulator is an incredible program
and, in my opinion, is a fabulous training aid....for some things.
Here's what I recommend. If you're serious about flying, get a yoke
and rudder pedals. I use CH controls and I like them. I'd like to
move up but the next move costs many times more and the CH stuff is
more than serviceable. Next, go for an introductory flight and get a
feel for what it is like to fly a real plane. The sensory inputs will
stick in your mind and be of some value to you when you fly a computer
that doesn't give you any such sensations. If you ever intend to
learn how to fly for real, be concious of the bad habits that can be
developed on a simulator. Most important of these is the tendency for
a sim pilot to focus on the instrument panel and spend far too little
time looking out the window. Enjoy the scenery.

When I have a flight that is going outside of my local little flying
area, I fly it on the sim first and the similarities are astounding.
If you can navigate on the sim, you can navigate in the real thing.

Finally, don't get discouraged. It can be difficult, depending on how
realistic you want to be. Have fun with it.

Rich Russell

Thanks everyone for your most helpful posts. Really appreciated.
Like a lot of things in this computing age it comes down to balancing the
time (and money) spent in the virtual world with living in the real world.
I am still inclined to have a go. I will probably be back seeking your
advice again before long.
Regards to all

"Cousin Jack Newquay" wrote in message
...
Sorry folks - please bear with me.

I love to fly (as a passenger) but am keen to 'get my hands on the
controls'.

Where do I start?

MS Flight Sim?

What 'joystick' and 'foot pedals'?

Your guidance will be very much appreciated.

Thanks group.

Cousin Jack Newquay wrote:
Thanks everyone for your most helpful posts. Really appreciated.
Like a lot of things in this computing age it comes down to balancing the
time (and money) spent in the virtual world with living in the real world.
I am still inclined to have a go. I will probably be back seeking your
advice again before long.
Regards to all

"Cousin Jack Newquay" wrote in message
...

Sorry folks - please bear with me.

I love to fly (as a passenger) but am keen to 'get my hands on the
controls'.

Where do I start?

MS Flight Sim?

What 'joystick' and 'foot pedals'?

Your guidance will be very much appreciated.

Thanks group.

No one stated the most important thing. (Well, to me at least, I'm
freeware hungry)

Get a large Hard Drive. I started with a 200MB drive 6 months ago, (New
computer = new hard drive, and I have added no special programs to it)

There are SO MANY great free programs, scenery and aircraft out there
begging to be downloaded.

I now installed a second 200GB Drive.


--


boB

The Roaming Gnome
Don't Forget Your Hat

Flying FS2002/4 in Texas

P4
2.66G
512 Ram
Ti4200-128
__________________________________________________ _______________________
Bob, Gabriella, Kuma, Chica, Balto, Blitz, Gussie, Costa and Tiger
Kempner, Central Texas
__________________________________________________ _______________________