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Old August 21st 03, 04:29 PM
Hilton Software LLC
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Default Announcing WingX for the Pocket PC

Hi everyone,

Hilton Software has spent over a year developing WingX. Earlier this week,
we announced general availability of the product.

"WingX is a Microsoft Pocket PC application designed by pilots for pilots.
WingX was designed from the ground up using the latest .NET technology from
Microsoft to create an application that pilots could use while down at the
airport and away from their desktop PC at home."

Weight and Balance, Route Planning, Sunrise and Sunset information, E6B
calculations, and the new Expiration page are included. FAA and Model
Databases can be downloaded wireless or by connecting your Pocket PC to your
PC.

Graphical Weight and Balance calculations are easy with pre-defined aircraft
models. WingX knows about Piper Warriors, Cessna 172s, Sundowners,
Schweizers, and more. Route Planning uses the current FAA database for
airports and VORs.

Go to http://www.hiltonsoftware.com and download WingX. We're hoping you
will like it and register with Hilton Software.

Thank you,

Hilton
Hilton Software LLC
http://www.hiltonsoftware.com


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Old August 21st 03, 04:54 PM
bob zee
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"WingX is a Microsoft Pocket PC application designed by pilots for pilots.
WingX was designed from the ground up using the latest .NET technology

from
Microsoft to create an application that pilots could use while down at the
airport and away from their desktop PC at home."

Thank you,

Hilton
Hilton Software LLC
http://www.hiltonsoftware.com


woo-hoo! great! that is exactly what we need! more apps running on
micro$oft crap!!!
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/0,39020330,39115732,00.htm
just a little sample, another example
--
bob z.
"people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
everyday"©


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Old August 21st 03, 04:57 PM
Cecil E. Chapman
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Just my two cents (and 'no' I am not an employee or affiliate of
HiltonSoftware grin)...

I've been checking out the program and have been more than pleased with its'
intelligent and thoughtful layout. The design of the program's display
interface is well-reasoned and most intuitive. One would be hard-pressed to
find a similar program that provides more features with out-of-the-box
functionality right from the point where you press the 'on' button on your
handheld device (PocketPC).

I'm running it on a Dell Axim with a 300Mhz Intel x-scale processor with
PocketPC 2003 and most pleased!

--
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Good Flights!

Cecil E. Chapman, Jr.
PP-ASEL

"We who fly do so for the love of flying.
We are alive in the air with this miracle
that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"

- Cecil Day Lewis-

My personal adventures as a student pilot
and after my PPL: www.bayareapilot.com
"Hilton Software LLC" wrote in message
ink.net...
Hi everyone,

Hilton Software has spent over a year developing WingX. Earlier this

week,
we announced general availability of the product.

"WingX is a Microsoft Pocket PC application designed by pilots for pilots.
WingX was designed from the ground up using the latest .NET technology

from
Microsoft to create an application that pilots could use while down at the
airport and away from their desktop PC at home."

Weight and Balance, Route Planning, Sunrise and Sunset information, E6B
calculations, and the new Expiration page are included. FAA and Model
Databases can be downloaded wireless or by connecting your Pocket PC to

your
PC.

Graphical Weight and Balance calculations are easy with pre-defined

aircraft
models. WingX knows about Piper Warriors, Cessna 172s, Sundowners,
Schweizers, and more. Route Planning uses the current FAA database for
airports and VORs.

Go to http://www.hiltonsoftware.com and download WingX. We're hoping you
will like it and register with Hilton Software.

Thank you,

Hilton
Hilton Software LLC
http://www.hiltonsoftware.com




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Old August 21st 03, 07:34 PM
JerryK
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Unfortunately it is built on the compact framework....

"Cecil E. Chapman" wrote in message
om...
Just my two cents (and 'no' I am not an employee or affiliate of
HiltonSoftware grin)...

I've been checking out the program and have been more than pleased with

its'
intelligent and thoughtful layout. The design of the program's display
interface is well-reasoned and most intuitive. One would be hard-pressed

to
find a similar program that provides more features with out-of-the-box
functionality right from the point where you press the 'on' button on your
handheld device (PocketPC).

I'm running it on a Dell Axim with a 300Mhz Intel x-scale processor with
PocketPC 2003 and most pleased!

--
--
Good Flights!

Cecil E. Chapman, Jr.
PP-ASEL

"We who fly do so for the love of flying.
We are alive in the air with this miracle
that lies in our hands and beneath our feet"

- Cecil Day Lewis-

My personal adventures as a student pilot
and after my PPL: www.bayareapilot.com
"Hilton Software LLC" wrote in message
ink.net...
Hi everyone,

Hilton Software has spent over a year developing WingX. Earlier this

week,
we announced general availability of the product.

"WingX is a Microsoft Pocket PC application designed by pilots for

pilots.
WingX was designed from the ground up using the latest .NET technology

from
Microsoft to create an application that pilots could use while down at

the
airport and away from their desktop PC at home."

Weight and Balance, Route Planning, Sunrise and Sunset information, E6B
calculations, and the new Expiration page are included. FAA and Model
Databases can be downloaded wireless or by connecting your Pocket PC to

your
PC.

Graphical Weight and Balance calculations are easy with pre-defined

aircraft
models. WingX knows about Piper Warriors, Cessna 172s, Sundowners,
Schweizers, and more. Route Planning uses the current FAA database for
airports and VORs.

Go to http://www.hiltonsoftware.com and download WingX. We're hoping

you
will like it and register with Hilton Software.

Thank you,

Hilton
Hilton Software LLC
http://www.hiltonsoftware.com








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Old August 21st 03, 08:29 PM
John T
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"JerryK" wrote in message


Unfortunately it is built on the compact framework....


I'm curious: Why is that unfortunate?

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Old August 22nd 03, 10:00 AM
Thomas Borchert
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Cecil,

haven't tried it yet (but I will). Just noted the price, which seems
very high. There is a handful of 20-$-apps out there which will do much
of the same. Not to mention Copilot for the Palm, which is free.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

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Old August 22nd 03, 12:00 PM
Thomas Borchert
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Cecil,

Ok, I have looked at it. The price is indeed very steep, compared to,
for example, Aerocalc (http://www.2flyeasy.com/, 20 $), EFISce
(http://www.btinternet.com/~navtech/ - flight planning AND GPS moving
map for about the same price as WingX, 69 $), NavigaCE
(http://members.aol.com/NavigaCE/, 20 $) or PocketFlightplan
(http://www.pocketflightplan.com/, 20 $).

Also, no mention of user waypoints, no mention of a European database
or a database containing more than just airports and VORs (e.g. NDBs or
intersections). No mention of wind being figured into the flight
planning function, either.

BUT: Maybe my view on this is wrong, so I'd be very interested in other
peoples opinions and experiences. I want to buy something for my iPaq
soon, so please let me know what you guys use!

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

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Old August 22nd 03, 02:20 PM
Hilton Software
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Thomas Borchert wrote:
Cecil,

Ok, I have looked at it. The price is indeed very steep, compared to,
for example, Aerocalc (http://www.2flyeasy.com/, 20 $), EFISce
(http://www.btinternet.com/~navtech/ - flight planning AND GPS moving
map for about the same price as WingX, 69 $), NavigaCE
(http://members.aol.com/NavigaCE/, 20 $) or PocketFlightplan
(http://www.pocketflightplan.com/, 20 $).


Thomas,

Thank you for your feedback. WingX features and its usability advantages
resulted from a significant amount of feedback during our Beta testing.
There are extremely useful features such as a list of expirations (for
example, just enter the data of your medical and WingX will calculate the
expiration dates of your 1st, 2nd, and 3rd class). WingX is also primarily
driven by popup menus, so you can calculate a graphical W&B in about 10
seconds. On the route page, a popup will display a list of 'recent'
airports. Popups also simplify the E6B calculations.

WingX supports real-time downloading of databases (via the internet) which
means that you will always have the latest FAA data and a complete database
of aircraft models with which to calculate W&B. For example, attach a
wireless card to your PDA (if required) and download the databases without
using your PC!


Also, no mention of user waypoints, no mention of a European database
or a database containing more than just airports and VORs (e.g. NDBs or
intersections). No mention of wind being figured into the flight
planning function, either.


We plan to include airports, VORs, NDB, and intersections within the next
few days. Since the database may be downloaded wirelessly (or by cradling
your PDA), this update will literally be just 2 clicks away. Wind
calculations in the route page will also be added very shortly. These
updates will be free.

As far as a European database is concerned, we are currently looking for a
good reliable source of information so that we can provide our users with an
uninterrupted source of information. If you can point me to a reliable
source, we should be able to add it expeditiously.


BUT: Maybe my view on this is wrong, so I'd be very interested in other
peoples opinions and experiences. I want to buy something for my iPaq
soon, so please let me know what you guys use!


The features being added to WingX are driven 100% by users, so we appreciate
your feedback.

As a result of your email and other market feedback and customer comments,
Hilton Software is now making WingX available for $39.99. We thank you for
your support.

Hilton
Hilton Software LLC
http://www.hiltonsoftware.com


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Old August 22nd 03, 02:47 PM
Thomas Borchert
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Hilton,

wow, you guys sure are quick! Ok, here are some thoughts:

- Price: Much more attractive now. As you have hinted at (and I
understand you can't say it outright, but I can), some other offerings
look much more cobbled together by hobbyists. Hmm, we should all
complain some more and see what you do to the price then ;-)

- User waypoints: A big thing for me. Let's say I want to cut a close
corner around some airspace next to my home drome. I need to plan with
a waypoint I'll put right there. Also, this brings me to...

- European waypoints: Many other programs realize that it's difficult
to get a reliable source for that (Jeppesen has them, of course). So
they let users compile them and put them up for download. There's a
risk of error (really higher than Jepp?), but everybody is made aware
of that risk. At least, they have them. Some European authorities have
their airport and nav aid info on the web for free, e.g. the UK and
France.

And two more questions:

- Is there a way to factor wind into the flight planning feature?
That's pretty much a deal breaker for me. One other software I
mentioned has an option to input winds aloft for all relevant altitudes
- and the flight planning will use that accordingly. As I mentioned,
Davies' (sp?) Copilot for the Palm is one of the gold standards for PDA
flight planning, IMHO.

- How do I get the Socata TB-10 Tobago POH data to you? I could e-mail
you our POH as a PDF, but it would be in German.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

 




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