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Old September 28th 04, 06:38 PM
R Barry
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Default New news Soaring is dangerous ?

As we all know soaring has it's challenges and risks. So does
building & flying your own plane. Check out this link and read the
second paragraph for details on the danger facing us.
www.rv-8project.com/good_bye_to_soaring.htm
My question is if soaring is so dangerous why when you go to the NTSB
accident pages are their more fatalities in RV's in 1 year than in
Soaring?
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Old September 28th 04, 06:49 PM
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R Barry wrote:
As we all know soaring has it's challenges and risks. So does
building & flying your own plane. Check out this link and read the
second paragraph for details on the danger facing us.
www.rv-8project.com/good_bye_to_soaring.htm
My question is if soaring is so dangerous why when you go to the NTSB
accident pages are their more fatalities in RV's in 1 year than in
Soaring?


You read more into it than is there. He says you need to be "totally
focused on being a disciplined practitioner of safe soaring" to do it
safely, and that he now wants to get back into powered flight, so he
won't be able to be totally focused. So he sells the plane. Makes sense
to me.

He didn't say an RV-8 is more/less safe.

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Old September 28th 04, 06:58 PM
Mark Zivley
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I'm more interested in figuring out how he got picture #7 without a
visible wing stand. Perhaps it was a "balance, then run" shot...

Could also be that he used some of the same technology used to create
the moon landing on a large sound stage too.... :-)

R Barry wrote:
As we all know soaring has it's challenges and risks. So does
building & flying your own plane. Check out this link and read the
second paragraph for details on the danger facing us.
www.rv-8project.com/good_bye_to_soaring.htm
My question is if soaring is so dangerous why when you go to the NTSB
accident pages are their more fatalities in RV's in 1 year than in
Soaring?


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Old September 28th 04, 08:22 PM
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Not news! Soaring IS dangerous. The bad news is that it seems to be becoming
more so as time passes. If you believe anything else you need your head
read. I understand that there have been 5 fatalities in the Alps in the past
two months alone.

Ian


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Old September 29th 04, 06:51 AM
R Barry
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"tango4" wrote in message ...
Not news! Soaring IS dangerous. The bad news is that it seems to be becoming
more so as time passes. If you believe anything else you need your head
read. I understand that there have been 5 fatalities in the Alps in the past
two months alone.

Ian


Here I go again starting **** or opening a can of worms (for
discussion)? Your choice, is soaring dangerous ? Are guns dangerous
? Depends who's shooting them and what they are shooting at. Same
with cars, trucks, boats, ect guess it depends who's operating them
and how. If a person buys a glider and flies it 250 hrs in 5 years
equals 50 hours a year and averages say 6.5 hours per flight on cross
country flights out of Crystal or any other gliderport how many
flights is that per year 7-8? Is the sport dangerous or is the
indivual dangerous to himself and others. Yes a good judgement call
would be maybe I shouldn't be doing this cause I'm not going to be
very proficiant making only 7-8 flightd per year.

In the past 12 months I counted over 30 accidents involving RV's of
all types resulting in 11 fatalities in the USA. In the same period I
counted 23 accidents in gliders resulting in 7 fatalities in the USA.
NTSB accident web page was my source. I'm guessing there were more
total hours in glider operations than all RV operations in the same
period of time.
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Old September 29th 04, 07:06 AM
Marc Ramsey
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R Barry wrote:
In the past 12 months I counted over 30 accidents involving RV's of
all types resulting in 11 fatalities in the USA. In the same period I
counted 23 accidents in gliders resulting in 7 fatalities in the USA.
NTSB accident web page was my source. I'm guessing there were more
total hours in glider operations than all RV operations in the same
period of time.


There are apparently somewhere around 3000 RVs currently flying in the
US, how many gliders are flying here?

Marc
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Old September 30th 04, 06:29 AM
Bob
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Marc Ramsey wrote in message news:zhs6d.21113
There are apparently somewhere around 3000 RVs currently flying in the
US, how many gliders are flying here?

Marc


There are 3000 RV's operating in Ohio, I don't know where you got your
info but the number should be around 100,000 acording to RV World the
industry magazine.

And with these numbers gliding doesn't seem so safe (still am not
going to trade my winch launches for a fifth wheel setup)

Bob
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Old October 2nd 04, 08:49 PM
Chris OCallaghan
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For those who haven't been around the sport long enough to know who
Bruno Gantenbrink is, here's a link to his article on safety. A very
worthwhile read from a man with a compelling point of view.

http://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/safety-comes-first-e.html

"tango4" wrote in message ...
Not news! Soaring IS dangerous. The bad news is that it seems to be becoming
more so as time passes. If you believe anything else you need your head
read. I understand that there have been 5 fatalities in the Alps in the past
two months alone.

Ian

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Old September 28th 04, 11:59 PM
Hal
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How do they get home? Too bad he was 44k short of his goal.

Mark Zivley wrote in message om...
I'm more interested in figuring out how he got picture #7 without a
visible wing stand. Perhaps it was a "balance, then run" shot...

Could also be that he used some of the same technology used to create
the moon landing on a large sound stage too.... :-)

R Barry wrote:
As we all know soaring has it's challenges and risks. So does
building & flying your own plane. Check out this link and read the
second paragraph for details on the danger facing us.
www.rv-8project.com/good_bye_to_soaring.htm
My question is if soaring is so dangerous why when you go to the NTSB
accident pages are their more fatalities in RV's in 1 year than in
Soaring?

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Old September 29th 04, 09:16 AM
Bruce Hoult
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In article ,
Mark Zivley wrote:

I'm more interested in figuring out how he got picture #7 without a
visible wing stand. Perhaps it was a "balance, then run" shot...


In the big shot it looks as if there might be someone sitting in it.
And the wings aren't terribly level.

Just a windy day, I guess.

-- Bruce
 




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